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Old 09-30-2009, 11:36 AM
 
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In case anyone's interested:

Here's some info that came out of the PISD's recent work session on realignment. This is needed to adjust to the new secondary schools coming online in the next couple of years. There are several possibilities on the table, but some things can be concluded from what's under consideration.

There is ZERO consideration of changing any of the elementary boundaries. The discussion is only about changing the feeder paths for schools.

From the top down:

11-12 The High School to Senior High feeders are a done deal - Shepton and (all of) Jasper will feed to Plano West, Clark and Vines to Plano Senior, Williams and the new school to Plano East.

9-10 As is, feeding all of Jasper to PWSH will tilt their enrollment. Currently, of the three middle schools feeding to Jasper, Robinson goes to PWSH, and Rice and Schimelpfenig to PSHS. So, Schimelpfenig is probably going to be peeled off from Jasper and given to either Vines or Clark (probably Clark).

Net result: Robinson kids are unchanged, Rice kids get the same 9-10 school, but a new 11-12 school (PWSH), Schimelpfenig kids get a new 9-10 school but the same 11-12 school (PSHS).

6-8: Moving Schimelpfenig to either Vines or Clark will unbalance the enrollment. There are a few options to remedy that on the table. The one that gets the best balance is moving Harrington El. from Carpenter to Haggard (which has a lot of excess capacity). That then opens some space at Clark for the Schimelpfenig kids.

Net result: Harrington kids get ALL NEW feeder schools: Haggard/Vines/PSHS instead of Carpenter/Clark/PESH.

That's all I have for the west side. East side is more messed up, mostly because PISD can't make accurate predictions of future enrollment for homes not yet built. There are a variety of mix and match options for middle school to high school feeders. It's not clear if they intend to split Williams and the new high school on a north-south or a east-west basis.

Some observations:
1) It's not clear what will happen to the IB program at Clark.

2) Jasper HS will become much smaller, making it possible to transfer into that school, something that is very difficult to make happen today.

3) The demographics of PSHS will change dramatically. Using today's numbers, PSHS will lose a net 275 Asian students to PWSH, and see a net increase of 260 AA students and 240 Hispanic students. You can expect a lot of those Asian National Merit Scholars listed under Plano Senior this year to show up in the Plano West column down the road.
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Old 09-30-2009, 12:08 PM
 
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I'm glad you posted. I went to the PISD website to get more info Feeder School Alignment Process : Plano ISD, Plano Texas (http://www.pisd.edu/feeder.realignment.committee/FeederAlign.html - broken link)

At least we know that Murphy MS will feed to McMillan (the new HS located across Kimbrough Stadium from the MS). Whew!
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Old 09-30-2009, 12:56 PM
 
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Yep, they have maps for all the different permutations posted at the site you listed.

There will be public meetings early next month. I suspect Rice and Harrington families will be happy with the realignment, Schimelpfenig parents less so.

East side? Hard to say, but Murphy/Otto feeding to McMillan makes the most sense to me. The only reason I can think of for not doing that is to keep some kids from getting all new-build schools and other kids getting old buildings all the way through.
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Old 09-30-2009, 01:53 PM
 
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Man, as a former Harrington kid, this is a BIG re-alignment, but it makes a lot more sense driving wise. Going to PESH was so far out of the way.

Plano West is going to get even more crazy competitive...
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Old 09-30-2009, 03:47 PM
 
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Yep, they have maps for all the different permutations posted at the site you listed.

There will be public meetings early next month. I suspect Rice and Harrington families will be happy with the realignment, Schimelpfenig parents less so.

East side? Hard to say, but Murphy/Otto feeding to McMillan makes the most sense to me. The only reason I can think of for not doing that is to keep some kids from getting all new-build schools and other kids getting old buildings all the way through.
Actually there is a lot of speculation around here that they will not put Otto and Murphy MS together. Not enough "diversity" among the various socio economic segments.
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Old 09-30-2009, 07:40 PM
 
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Plano West is going to get even more crazy competitive...
Yes, it is. It seems as if 75% of the top gunners at PSHS are Rice kids.

And Plano Senior might have problems filling the bazillion AP classes they currently offer. It might make it a lot easier for some kids at PSHS to get into big-name schools, as they can rely on the reputation developed over the years with a different demographic.

On the plus side, PSHS athletics will get a boost. They gain all the Clark kids, who were big contributors at PESH, and only lose the (not so athletic, as a whole) Rice MS kids.

MurphyPl1, of the east side options posted on Plano Independent School District – Plano, Texas, which one makes the most sense to you?
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Old 10-01-2009, 09:35 AM
 
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Geographically it makes the most sense to put Otto and Murphy into McMillen.

Bowman and Armstrong are both closer to Williams.

And currently Miller, Schell and Stinson all feed into Murphy MS.
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Old 10-01-2009, 10:13 AM
 
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Geographically it makes the most sense to put Otto and Murphy into McMillen.

Bowman and Armstrong are both closer to Williams.

And currently Miller, Schell and Stinson all feed into Murphy MS.
I agree with you. As you said, though, they might have an interest in not creating a "rich" school.

PISD has proposed maps for both Bowman/Murphy and Armstrong/Murphy feeding into McMillan. They both look silly to me, but I'm not an eastsider. Which of those choices is more logical?
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Old 10-01-2009, 01:15 PM
 
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Armstrong. Bowman is right there in the same area as Williams. Totally doesn't make sense to drive the kids so far away.

Which is actually another concern. What is the cost of busing all those kids from either bowman or armstrong to McMillen and then busing all those kids from South Murphy and far east Plano/Richardson to Williams? Wouldn't that money be better spent to actually enhance the education at Williams?

And honestly I don't see it as an issue of rich/poor. Rather involved and uninvolved parents. There's tons of diversity all over the east side, but the schools that will feed into Murphy MS and Otto MS are covered up with involved parents. There's very active PTAs, volunteer programs and the WatchDOGS programs. When you force kids out of their neighborhood school, you make it more difficult for parents to stay involved. If parents at Bowman aren't as involved now what makes anyone think they'll drive the 15 minutes to go get involved at McMillen HS?
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Old 11-17-2009, 08:44 AM
 
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Diversity at core of Plano school boundary debate | News for Dallas, Texas | Dallas Morning News | Latest News

"Schools mixed with students of varied ethnic and socioeconomic backgrounds perform best academically, said Gary Orfield, an education professor at the University of California at Los Angeles and an expert on race relations. At those schools, low-performing students' grades improve, and high-achieving students' grades remain elevated.

"But if they create highly segregated schools by race and by class, it will create schools with gigantic educational problems," he said.

Some parents fear that schools with too many low-income children take up a disproportionate share of teachers' time, causing higher-performing students to suffer"
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