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Old 05-28-2007, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth/Dallas
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Outside service just came to mow our common area and the grass in my opinion was much too wet to do. Now their are tire marks . I don't know much about grass but I'd think that mowing while the grass still is so heavy with water would hurt the grass. Anybody know if this is the case?
Yes, especially if they use a power mower like mine. My John Deer power mower with the bagger is much to heavy to trudge around in this slush. It would leave tire marks an inch or two deep. It'll be a good four or five days before I can even attempt to mow my lawn. It's gonna be HIGH before then.

What I need is one of those powerless mowers right now; the ones that you push and have multiple blades. Any idea how to buy one of those?
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Old 05-28-2007, 10:41 AM
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So, I'm willing to hedge my bets and say that this summer is going to be relatively mild. It's friggin' June (almost) and we've rarely gotten above 85 or 86 degrees (yesterday was 77!). In past years, we've already gone into the mid (even upper) 90s by April.
Totally agree...that summer in 2004 was fairly mild due to the very wet spring we had..very similar to what is happening now. By last April, it had already topped 100 degrees because we were out and about at the Arboretum that day and wanted to melt!
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Old 05-28-2007, 10:49 AM
 
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It was in the 100s last April ? I didn't know that...so it does appear that we are in store for a mild (but sticky) summer. Are these weather patterns consistent here every x number of years ? According to my friend at work (50+ year old born and raised), he said the cycles run every couple of years.
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Old 05-28-2007, 10:57 AM
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It was in the 100s last April ? I didn't know that...so it does appear that we are in store for a mild (but sticky) summer. Are these weather patterns consistent here every x number of years ? According to my friend at work (50+ year old born and raised), he said the cycles run every couple of years.
That seems about right, Socketz, at least since 2000 when I moved back to the area. The first few summers were awful with temps over 110 degrees even going into September in 2000 alone! There were then a couple of summers, as has been mentioned, when the region barely reached 100 degrees once due to wet springs and summers. The last few years, especially last year, was once again hot and miserable so maybe this year will be fairly nice, relatively speaking!
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Old 05-28-2007, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth/Dallas
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It was in the 100s last April ? I didn't know that...so it does appear that we are in store for a mild (but sticky) summer. Are these weather patterns consistent here every x number of years ? According to my friend at work (50+ year old born and raised), he said the cycles run every couple of years.
Yes, it was hot already by last April. Dry ground heats up much faster than wet ground, the same as water takes much longer to heat up than dry land. Also, summer gets hotter and hotter toward the end of the summer here, which made me curious. I mean, why, if the sun is at its closest June 21st (longest day) and the days gradually get shorter after that date does it tend to get hotter after June 21st (first day of summer)? I posed the following question to someone in the know one time and this was there answer:

The summer heat becomes hotter after the sun reaches its zenith because of the accumulated/stored heat in the soil and terrain (including buildings) acquired up until that time (and in Texas that can be months and months of summer like temps prior to the official beginning of summer).

In short, the hotter it is before June 21st, generally speaking, the hotter the rest of the summer will be. Since this spring has been really cool, the likelihood of that heat accumulation becomes less and once the days start getting shorter, there will be less of a residual effect. I know I probably didn't explain that very well but I think it makes sense.

The last 10 years, we've had just two really wet springs like this and one of them (2004) resulted in an unusually cool summer. The last year I remember having drenching rains all spring like this was sometime in the early 90s (maybe 1992 or 1993) and the summers those years (if I recall correctly) were mild as well. I'll do some research on the climatology website and see if I can back this up with facts. I KNOW 2004 was very mild and I think everyone agrees that it had to do with the wet soil keeping temps from heating up to much in the day.
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Old 05-28-2007, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth/Dallas
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That seems about right, Socketz, at least since 2000 when I moved back to the area. The first few summers were awful with temps over 110 degrees even going into September in 2000 alone! There were then a couple of summers, as has been mentioned, when the region barely reached 100 degrees once due to wet springs and summers. The last few years, especially last year, was once again hot and miserable so maybe this year will be fairly nice, relatively speaking!
I think 97 through 99 were excruciating as well. I remember listening in disgust to the radio late at night and the local radio weather guy would say "It's 12:00 o'clock and the temp is ... 98 degrees." It was like an oven those years and 200/2001/2002 were not much any different. Also, remember, I think it was '98 when we had that horrible drought where there were wildfires everywhere. In the last 10 years (97 - 2007), we had 6 years of almost unbearable heat and drought (97 - 2003), followed by a very wet spring/year (2004) followed by two years of drought and heat. Hopefully this wet spring only two years after the last wet spring indicates a trend of less drought/heat periods between wet periods.
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Old 05-28-2007, 11:19 AM
 
Location: The Big D
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11 years ago was a drought. I remember the lakes being dry back then too just like they were last year and some still this year.
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Old 05-28-2007, 11:25 AM
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I wonder if all these drought years, followed by wet and milder years, has anything to do with the El Nino and La Nina effect in the Pacific, as has been alluded to over the last few years?
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Old 05-28-2007, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth/Dallas
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I went and randomly picked two days in late July from the archives on weatherunderground.com. Unfortunately, detailed temperature readings on that website only go back to 1996. so I couldn't look at 1992 or 1993 summer temps. Here is what I saw for the high temps on July 28th and July 29th for the years 1996 - 2006.

Year - July 28/29

1996- 95/97 (year to date precip - no record)
1997 - 99/100 (year to date precip - no record)
1998 - 104/102 (year to date precip - no record)
1999 - 100/102 (year to date precip - no record)
2000 - 100/98 (year to date precip - no record)
2001 - 97/98 (year to date precip - no record)
2002 - 96/90 (year to date precip - no record)
2003 - 100/102 (year to date precip - no record)
2004 - 88/85 (year to date precip - 30.93 inches) - Normal rainfall is 20.91 for July 28.
2005 - 86/94 (year to date precip - 13.91 inches)
2006 - 97/100 (year to date precip - 16.38 inches)
2007 - ??/?? (year to date precip - 19.32 - 4 inches above normal and this is two months from July 28)

Interesting note: The year to date precipitation in 2004 (when it was so cool in July and August) on May 27th was 16.28 inches. That's three inches below the rain we have received thus far in 2007.. All in all, I think it bodes well for the coming summer being a cool one.
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Old 05-28-2007, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Topeka, KS
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I've done a little reasearch instead of just tossing around a statistic. The 250 gal/day/person is not just their residential usage, it's the total water usage of an area divided by it's population, so it includes water you use while eating our for dinner, drinking coffee at work and irrigating the park in your neighborhood.

I've tried to find a statistic of "average home usage" to no avail...

GoPadge - Are you saying 140 gal/day/person in your house? Assuming you + wife + 4 kids, that's 6 x 140 x 30 = 25,200. That does seem like quite a bit, but you do have 5 of the people at home while you're at work. What is your timing on your irrigation? Typically, that's the largest water use in a home. Some people water 10-15 minutes every day!
No. Our consumption is 140 gal/day / household 140 * 30 = 4200 gallons. I don't use my timer right now. I got a warning from the water police the first month we were here. While the timer was set for Tuesday, it went off on Monday.... I've also found that it seems to lose a day every few weeks, so I unplugged it and only plug it in to run it manually.
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