Dallas versus Southern California (Houston, Richardson: insurance, crime rate, safe area)

[socketz]

Originally Posted by tashina

I posted the other day on this thread that California rentals were going up - looks like I was wrong in regards to San Diego at least. Just didn't want to leave wrong info out there:

SignOnSanDiego.com > News > Business -- More apartments available for less

Interesting. I know 6 months ago we saw 15% in my area and homes were rented out in a week once advertised. This appears to have changed due to all the apartment conversions that are not selling and converting back to rentals.

I think this also has alot to do with the increase in vacancies:

"Researchers raised the possibility that some renters are moving out of the county to less pricey markets. The U.S. Census Bureau has reported that between July 2005 and July 2006, about 42,000 more people left the county than came here, according to population estimates. "

My wife was telling me that when she gave my daughter's school notice that we were leaving, she said that they told her lots of people were moving away, so much so that they had to change some of their expansion plans for next year because they were worried they'd be unable to fill the existing classrooms.

I'll check back in a few years. I can't imagine this will be a persistent cycle.

From the other thread, more "anti-CA is over-rated" material:
Kings Canyon National Park pictures - US National Parks stock photos, fine art prints by QTL

[KewGee]

Originally Posted by socketz

From the other thread, more "anti-CA is over-rated" material:
Kings Canyon National Park pictures - US National Parks stock photos, fine art prints by QTL

I saw those gorgeous photos on the other thread and was in 7th Heaven. Now that is true beauty to behold. I wish I could look at a view like that each and every day for the remaining years of my life.

Who was it that said CA was flat desert? True, it is in some parts just like most of the southwest states are.

I'm traveling through NC, TN, and VA next week from GA (am flying to GA from DFW). I know I will find beauty there too, just a different kind perhaps.

[aceplace]

Originally Posted by socketz

Researchers raised the possibility that some renters are moving out of the county to less pricey markets. The U.S. Census Bureau has reported that between July 2005 and July 2006, about 42,000 more people left the county than came here, according to population estimates. "

That sounds pretty extreme, socketz. Could you give me a link to the Census Bureau page that posted that?

[KewGee]

Originally Posted by midnightbirdgirl

Socketz, it is not about winning...it is about being realistic. For us, the crime, the traffic, the poor schools, the politics, and the excessive cost of living here in Cali make it something that it once was not. I remember some years ago, living in the IE and it taking only about 2 hours to get to Newport Beach. As it stands I would not ever want to live in the IE again, YUCK!! And the commute to the beach is much longer now.
I don't have the mind set to live in Cali the way it is now, you are right. To me, weather is not everything. Quality of life for my family is much more than the weather.
For your family it seems that sunshine 365 is paramount, that is fine, for us it just isn't.
We all have to find that place that is home, and what the means to each of us is very different. No place is going to be perfect.
I glad you have found yours.
Now let us find ours. And accept that what I, or anyone else needs to find home may be very different than what you need as home, and that is quite alright...this is not a contest, it is our hope to find home, just as you have.

MBG

I agree with you that CA isn't the way it used to be which is a shame. There are way too many people who have lessened the quality of life just like many other areas in the country that have had the same problems. About crime...........

Check out the link below and one can see that the whole country is full of crime. Comparing Dallas to Southern California (specifically L.A.), one will see that the population versus crime is quite comparable. I'm pleased to see that the city where I was raised, Burbank, is not too bad in that aspect. The chart only lists cities with a population of 100,000 or higher.

http://abcnews.go.com/images/WN/FBIC...reliminary.pdf

[socketz]

Originally Posted by aceplace

That sounds pretty extreme, socketz. Could you give me a link to the Census Bureau page that posted that?

It was text from the article; I'm trusting SDUT didn't pull these out of the air:

SignOnSanDiego.com > News > Business -- More apartments available for less

What's funny are the reader comments at the bottom of this article - read what they say ;-)

[socketz]

Originally Posted by KewGee

I agree with you that CA isn't the way it used to be which is a shame. There are way too many people who have lessened the quality of life just like many other areas in the country that have had the same problems. About crime...........

Check out the link below and one can see that the whole country is full of crime. Comparing Dallas to Southern California (specifically L.A.), one will see that the population versus crime is quite comparable. I'm pleased to see that the city where I was raised, Burbank, is not too bad in that aspect. The chart only lists cities with a population of 100,000 or higher.

http://abcnews.go.com/images/WN/FBIC...reliminary.pdf

Wow. I had no idea Phoenix had so much violent crime. A city that's comparable in size to San Diego has close to 2x the violent crime. Looks like Dallas is hanging with LA.

Also, why is Mckinney missing ? I think Mckinney is well over 115k now. Frisco was around 90k in 06, so I'm guessing they are close to 100k now as well.

[GoPadge]

Originally Posted by socketz

Wow. I had no idea Phoenix had so much violent crime. A city that's comparable in size to San Diego has close to 2x the violent crime. Looks like Dallas is hanging with LA.

Also, why is Mckinney missing ? I think Mckinney is well over 115k now. Frisco was around 90k in 06, so I'm guessing they are close to 100k now as well.

I'm glad you asked that socketz. I haven't been able to make a chart in at least a week.

...............Estimated...Growth
..............Population...Rate
..................1/1/07...2006-2007
Collin County....724,900...4.62%
Allen.............76,600...7.89%
Frisco............92,100...8.80%
McKinney.........112,000...7.54%
Murphy............12,450..10.18%
Plano............255,700...1.23%
Prosper............6,050..15.24%
Wylie.............35,400...7.27%


from http://www.nctcog.org/ris/demographi...pestimates.pdf

[socketz]

I knew your were out there somewhere.

Prosper is interesting....6k.....so about 100k to go. I wonder when we will see it double. Also, is Allen projected to exceed 100k ? It looks pretty built out to me.

I continue to be amazed at just how many people live here....

[KewGee]

Originally Posted by socketz

Wow. I had no idea Phoenix had so much violent crime. A city that's comparable in size to San Diego has close to 2x the violent crime. Looks like Dallas is hanging with LA.

Also, why is Mckinney missing ? I think Mckinney is well over 115k now. Frisco was around 90k in 06, so I'm guessing they are close to 100k now as well.

Sperling's Best Places states McKinney has 89,200 people and Frisco at 64,450. Hmmm! I'm sure those stats are accurate.

Truly, I'm not surprised that Dallas ranks with Los Angeles. California ranks # 10 in the union for crime and Texas # 11.

Considering the difference in population, that really doesn't look good for us in Texas. CA has 36 1/2 million people and Texas has 23 1/2 million. People per square mile in CA ~ 217.1 and in Texas ~ 79.6.

Let's face it; it's terrible all over except those really cold states that have such little crime.

Actually, it is kind of interesting to see about crime rates, but mostly, it's quite sad to see such awful stats.

[socketz]

Originally Posted by KewGee

Sperling's Best Places states McKinney has 89,200 people and Frisco at 64,450. Hmmm! I'm sure those stats are accurate.

Truly, I'm not surprised that Dallas ranks with Los Angeles. California ranks # 10 in the union for crime and Texas # 11.

Considering the difference in population, that really doesn't look good for us in Texas. CA has 36 1/2 million people and Texas has 23 1/2 million. People per square mile in CA ~ 217.1 and in Texas ~ 79.6.

Let's face it; it's terrible all over except those really cold states that have such little crime.

Actually, it is kind of interesting to see about crime rates, but mostly, it's quite sad to see such awful stats.

Cut LA out of CA and let it sink into the ocean...who knows...