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Old 03-02-2010, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by getmeoutofhere View Post
Property taxes are about the highest in the nation, the highest in some places.

Nothing's free, the money has to come from somewhere.

I pay 2.6% or so in property tax a year on my house.
No, Dallas property taxes are not "about" the highest in the nation.

If you pay 2.6% on a Dallas house worth 200,000, that's 5,200 per year.

If you pay 1% on an equivalent California house priced at 550,000, that is 5,500 per year.

Old 03-02-2010, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by sometimes lurkin View Post
2.6% is very close to what I pay in property taxes in central Illinois, not sure what its like in the counties surrounding Chicago (probably higher). That 2.6 % includes everything though, I read somewhere that in Dallas there is a separate tax on the DART and a community college if it is in your zone(there must be others as well).
The 2.6% includes all taxes on property. The DART rail system is funded by a 1% addition to the sales tax, but the sales tax anywhere in the state is capped at a max of 8.5%.
Old 03-02-2010, 08:09 AM
Location: Santaluz - San Diego, CA
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As others have mentioned, the sales tax in Dallas is very high. No state income tax helps quite a bit but they get you in property taxes and sales tax. Also, Texas has quite a bit of corporate activity and companies headquartered here so they are generating huge amounts of income tax from these companies.

Also, there are tremendous amounts of taxes paid by oil companies based in Texas.

I've lived in Texas before. Although it's not glamorous or even beautiful, it's a safe place and the quality of life is fairly high in many areas. The downside is the public transportation system isn't that good compared to other cities so you have to have a car but it's the same in many other places.

Generally however there is no free lunch. They get you in other ways like high property and sales taxes.
Old 03-02-2010, 08:28 AM
Location: North Texas
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Originally Posted by earlyretirement View Post
I've lived in Texas before. Although it's not glamorous or even beautiful
Wow, what a rude thing to say. I think the Dallas area is very beautiful and we do have a lot of glamorous areas. No- we are not Hollywood or Bel Air or even New York but we do have great areas and we do have A LOT of well know "stars" that call North Texas home, we are not star struck.
Old 03-02-2010, 08:52 AM
Location: Santaluz - San Diego, CA
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I didn't post it to be rude. Not at all so I'm sorry you took it that way.

But I stand by my post. Dallas simply is NOT glamorous and I don't find the city too beautiful compared to other cities that I've been to. I've been to just about all 50 states in the USA and another 200+ cities outside of the USA.

Glamorous is not a word I'd use to describe Dallas but you shouldn't get offended.

Yes, there are nice areas and I'm not saying Dallas is awful or ugly. I'm just saying to accept Dallas for what it is.

Dallas has a lot of positives as well but I think it's helpful to give true opinions about what Dallas is and is not.

Generally while I lived in Dallas I found that to my surprise many people didn't travel too much or get to know other cities. Some people even seemed to be proud they never left the state before so their definition of "beautiful or glamorous" was relative as they didn't have too much to compare it to. Dallas is a nice place to live but compared to most major cities around the word....I still stick by my original post Dallas isn't exactly beautiful.

It's similar to watching a beauty pageant and saying that a girl isn't particularly gorgeous. She isn't ugly and isn't too beautiful but has a nice personality. I'd look at Dallas kind of like that. Certainly isn't going to win the beauty contest based on looks but might win Ms. Congeniality....

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Old 03-02-2010, 09:11 AM
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by hsw View Post
US' most efficient state/local government w/anti-tax, anti-union, pro-business ethos

Compare no. of gvt employees per capita (and per capita gvt worker pay/pensions...esp pensions) in TX vs CA or NY/NJ or IL....all big states with social "issues" but TX manages problems with far less BigGovernment and corruption (and hence low taxes) vs CA/NYC/IL

Newer tract houses in West Plano aren't much cheaper than comparables in Naperville, w/similar quality public schools...but much quicker drives to offices in Plano or Irving or Uptown vs a commute from Naperville to Loop

But prop and sales taxes are deductible vs fed taxes in TX....so Dallas' (or Houston's) overall tax burden tends to be far lower than that of any major city in US....much of why so many major companies look to TX to move HQs (and high-income, tax-sensitive executives)
Texas lost 14,000 jobs in the private sector and added 156,000 government sector jobs last year. That's like saying I'm better off than Joe because I lost 1 finger in an accident and he lost 2. When the citizens tighten their belts so should our government.
I love Texas. i don't like what our state government is doing in this area.
Old 03-02-2010, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by earlyretirement View Post
The downside is the public transportation system isn't that good compared to other cities

Hello DART has the largest light rail expansion project in the country almost finished:

Old 03-02-2010, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by sometimes lurkin View Post
I've half way searched through this forum and still can't understand it. You have no income tax, no tax on personal assets, and property, sales, and sin taxes that are equal to my broke state.

It just seems to good to be true. Not to mention that the price of housing is way lower than on either coast. Hopefully I will be transferring down to the Dallas area in the next year. So, if somebody has the bad news of some hidden cost please share. The weather and lakes alone are a reason to move, this cost of living just seems to good to be true.
Congratulations on having seen the light. Now do us all a favor, including yourself. Keep the good news quiet. Only those who really want to know will understand.

We'll look forward to having you here next year. Keep the light shining. We'll keep a light on here for you... well, we'll have a hotel do that. You know, taxes and all.
Old 03-02-2010, 12:50 PM
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I love the no state tax, and no food tax when I go grocery shopping!

I know one way they are making some $$ though. The DMV will bend you over and ram it in you as a new resident. By the time I got both vehicles inspected, tagged, and new driver's license, I'm $600 poorer PLUS had to pay a $500 repair bill to have one vehicle pass the emission test. Did not plan for that one!
Old 03-02-2010, 03:14 PM
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I just wanted to point out (even though we've only got 3 hours left in the primary) that Medina is advocating for a repeal of the property tax. What she's not really touting is that she wants to raise the sales tax to about 14%.

The problem for those cities that rely on property taxes to fund the operation and maintenance of the city will be drastically impacted. And for those of you who would say "well more reason to live in Dallas!" - Dallas struggles now to meet the needs of its residents - do you really think paying 5% more in sales tax would suddenly make that happen? In response to a voter who asked about the ramifications of removing property taxes from communities that are majority property tax driven, the answer was "well the sales tax increase would make up for that." Um, no. If a city like Murphy with a $10M budget gets 75% of their revenue from property taxes how on earth would they make up $7.5M when they are currently only getting $2.5M? Because you KNOW they aren't going to let the municipality triple the part of the increased sales tax.

In response to that? The answer was - there would be a pool of sales tax money and it would be divyied out by need. Sounds like socialism to me.

And honestly TxDOT works a lot like that and boy, oh boy, would we be better off it they would just let the cities and counties do the street building and maintenance. They are slow as molasses, can't figure out growth patterns that a kindergartner can and are completely unable to work with those they serve.
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