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Old 03-02-2010, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Plano, TX
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Originally Posted by Loveshiscountry View Post
Texas lost 14,000 jobs in the private sector and added 156,000 government sector jobs last year. I love Texas. i don't like what our state government is doing in this area.
I guess this came from Debra Media. While I agree with her idea of a smaller government, replacing property tax (relatively stable revenue at least in TX) with sales tax(very volatile revenue) simply doesn't seem rational at all. There are many tough decisions a governor has to make. While I don't agree 100% with all those decisions, the current TX government is quite okay if compared with CA, IL, NY and other blue states. The Texas tax system is not perfect but is acceptable.

 
Old 03-02-2010, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Texas pretty much offers nothing to its citizens. Also, Texas compensates by having higher taxes ( higher property taxes, VERY expensive to register your car, state inspections more expensive etc. ) Those things do add up. I don't know why people don't get that.
 
Old 03-02-2010, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Plano, TX
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Texas pretty much offers nothing to its citizens. Also, Texas compensates by having higher taxes ( higher property taxes, VERY expensive to register your car, state inspections more expensive etc. ) Those things do add up. I don't know why people don't get that.
I have lived in CA, AZ, PA, and TX(second time). I find that I always save more money when I live in Texas even with slightly lower salaries. I have no idea what you are talking about but you have the right to express your opinion.
 
Old 03-02-2010, 07:17 PM
 
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As others have mentioned, the sales tax in Dallas is very high. No state income tax helps quite a bit but they get you in property taxes and sales tax.
No, the total state income and local property tax amounts are lower than other megastates, such as New York, Massachusets, New Jersey or California

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I've lived in Texas before. Although it's not glamorous or even beautiful, it's a safe place
No, it's not a specific place on the map, it's an enormous territory the size of Germany or France, with a diverse range of scenery, terrain and plant life.

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The downside is the public transportation system isn't that good compared to other cities so you have to have a car but it's the same in many other places.
In every metropolitan area in America, in metro New York, metro Chicago, in the San Francisco Bay Area, in Metro Washington/Baltimore, the vast majority of people think they need a car. In the inner city of Dallas, many people insist you don't need a car and can depend on DART trains and buses.
 
Old 03-02-2010, 07:28 PM
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I just wanted to point out (even though we've only got 3 hours left in the primary) that Medina is advocating for a repeal of the property tax. What she's not really touting is that she wants to raise the sales tax to about 14%.

The problem for those cities that rely on property taxes to fund the operation and maintenance of the city will be drastically impacted. And for those of you who would say "well more reason to live in Dallas!" - Dallas struggles now to meet the needs of its residents - do you really think paying 5% more in sales tax would suddenly make that happen? In response to a voter who asked about the ramifications of removing property taxes from communities that are majority property tax driven, the answer was "well the sales tax increase would make up for that." Um, no. If a city like Murphy with a $10M budget gets 75% of their revenue from property taxes how on earth would they make up $7.5M when they are currently only getting $2.5M? Because you KNOW they aren't going to let the municipality triple the part of the increased sales tax.

In response to that? The answer was - there would be a pool of sales tax money and it would be divyied out by need. Sounds like socialism to me.

And honestly TxDOT works a lot like that and boy, oh boy, would we be better off it they would just let the cities and counties do the street building and maintenance. They are slow as molasses, can't figure out growth patterns that a kindergartner can and are completely unable to work with those they serve.
that's not socialism, because all the public schools are already run by the state
 
Old 03-02-2010, 07:54 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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I just wanted to point out something about the sales Tax in Texas. I didn't realize how bad ass this was till I moved to Oklahoma for a year. (I will never go live in OK ever again)

Here are my examples:
There is no Sales Tax on most grocery items. There is no sales tax on bottled water, milk, cheese, or produce at the corner convenience store. There is no Sales Tax at the local morning donut shop (only if they are properly registered as a bakery) You will never have taxes on Dairy products or bread products. I never really paid any attention to all of this. But when I moved to Oklahoma I started to notice how expensive my grocery shopping was.
Where I lived the sales tax was a whopping 10% and everything is Taxed, even milk and bread. I was pissed! Also OK has state income tax and I didn't like that. They get all that money from people and they still have ****ty highways. I moved back, I couldn't stand it, I told my job to move to TX or go to hell, haha plus the beer there is only 3.2% Alc. that was another reason to move back
 
Old 03-02-2010, 07:56 PM
 
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Eeeeeeeek SOCIALISM. The SSSSS word!!!! LOL!

I grew up with 20% MwSt (=value added tax). And you know what?! The final price of everyday goods was not 20% higher than in the USA (using the exchange rate - however inaccurate that is). What happens is that lots of everyday goods' prices are determined by supply and demand and in Texas the lower tax doesn't translate into lower prices but into higher profits instead. Of course there are exceptions but in general, a higher sales tax would not lead to higher prices in my experience.

I'd vote for a 20% VAT instead of property tax in a microsecond. At least homeownership would be more true instead of the 2.5% / year "lease" from the government. Property tax = communism to me. Texas just doesn't have real homeownership.
 
Old 03-02-2010, 07:58 PM
 
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I just wanted to point out something about the sales Tax in Texas. I didn't realize how bad ass this was till I moved to Oklahoma for a year. (I will never go live in OK ever again)

Here are my examples:
There is no Sales Tax on most grocery items. There is no sales tax on bottled water, milk, cheese, or produce at the corner convenience store. There is no Sales Tax at the local morning donut shop (only if they are properly registered as a bakery) You will never have taxes on Dairy products or bread products. I never really paid any attention to all of this. But when I moved to Oklahoma I started to notice how expensive my grocery shopping was.
Where I lived the sales tax was a whopping 10% and everything is Taxed, even milk and bread. I was pissed! Also OK has state income tax and I didn't like that. They get all that money from people and they still have ****ty highways. I moved back, I couldn't stand it, I told my job to move to TX or go to hell, haha plus the beer there is only 3.2% Alc. that was another reason to move back
Really? When I was in college in the 60s, we'd drive from North Texas state in Denton to just across the border to drink Oklahoma Coors, in preference to Texas Coors.
 
Old 03-02-2010, 08:46 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Really? When I was in college in the 60s, we'd drive from North Texas state in Denton to just across the border to drink Oklahoma Coors, in preference to Texas Coors.
Well I don't know how it was in the 60's I'm a youngster at only 27 But yea in Oklahoma, ALL beer sold at beer stores and grocery stores are 3.2% All popular american beers are this way, as well as Shiner, and some other premium beers.

Now it is possible to buy 'strong beer' (what they call it) but ONLY from the Liquor store, and it MUST be sold at room temp, its illegal to sell strong beer chilled. And the popular American beer such as bud, coors and such, are ONLY available in 3.2% version. Shiner is in strong mode at the Liquor store. But you can get strong beer served at a bar or restaurant but only the premium and import beers.

some FYI:
Budweiser is 5%, Bud Light is 4.2%, Shiner is 4.4%, Miller highlife 5.5%, Miller Lite 4.2%, Sam Adams Double Bock 8.5% <--this one is super strong.

ok yea and for some reason okies think all beer at the Liquor store and Texas beer is 6%, I was drinking a bud light from Texas and someone noticed "The Lone star state" on the beer can and he said wow your drinking "6 point beer" haha that idiot
 
Old 03-02-2010, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Is Dallas property tax high
When I lived there- admittedly long ago- the property taxes in Plano were quite high but no income taxes were nice. In Georgia they tax you everytime you turn around. We have 4-6% income tax (virtually everybody pays the 6% rate), property taxes, car taxes (called "the birthday tax" because that is when you have to pay it), sales taxes, sin taxes and taxes, taxes, taxes.
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