06-11-2007, 05:26 PM
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"The older 1950's homes across Jackson have been pretty safe from this issue".
Pier and Beam homes usually have no significant foundation problems. Also they usually have hardwood floors. By the mid-1960s most builders had stopped building them - the only area of 1970s and 80s homes I know with them is the former Bob-O-Links golf course in Lakewood.
06-11-2007, 05:59 PM
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We have a pier and beam home - built in 1967 - Far North Dallas.
06-12-2007, 10:30 PM
Location: Harrisburg,Pa
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Thanks for the all the help
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06-13-2007, 08:29 AM
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Pier and Beam homes usually have no significant foundation problems. Also they usually have hardwood floors. By the mid-1960s most builders had stopped building them - the only area of 1970s and 80s homes I know with them is the former Bob-O-Links golf course in Lakewood.
There is a pocket of pier and beam homes built in the 70's between Royal/Forest and Greenville/Abrams - lots of AWESOME mature, old growth trees and rolling hills. We LOVED the neighborhood. We looked at several homes on Locarno, Raeford and Loma Vista that all had pier and beam. One other nice benefit of P&B... it's much easier to relocate drain lines - no need to jackhammer a foundation!!! Although, technically, it does cost a little more to heat/cool a P&B. Many of them aren't insulated from underneath - something that can fixed relatively easy.
We tried to buy two homes in that neighborhood - one needed a new layout for the guest quarters bathroom (it needed to be opened into the hallway, which we were going to do by combining the bathroom and the laundry "closet" to make one much larger room and hiding the washer/dryer under a cabinet will roll-down doors)... but alas, the guy that owned the home was just not serious about selling. It was funny, he said that he didn't think we were serious buyers cause we only offered $1,000 earnest money (which our agent said is relatively standard issue, he said he's prefer to see $5K or more), so we rewrote the offer to include $10K earnest just to ease that concern and told them verbally we'd go to $20K if they still didn't think we were serious, but the ball was in their court to make the next move. He then wanted us to counter our own offer without coming back to us with a counter of his own first. What a dufus. He simply wasn't serious about selling - had his house listed at the high end of the neighborhood and it needed all new flooring throughout, new decking around the pool and a whole host of other fixes (hideous bathroom layout - even had "saloon" doors to the water closet and 70's flower wallpaper). I've seen it up for sale several times since then, different agents, same price. He still has it, and according to public records, he has an ARM which has adjusted up twice since then (gotta love public records). Oh well. The best part of our conversation... was that he was bragging that he was a "banker", so he knows what his house is worth. We kindly let him know my wife works for Fannie Mae, so we did also.
Then we left the offer with a deadline on it. It passed. They called back afterwords, but still didn't want to give us a number. I don't understand some people.
Wow! I feel better, had that pinned up for some time now. Hehe!
Brian
06-13-2007, 08:33 AM
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Pier and Beam homes usually have no significant foundation problems. Also they usually have hardwood floors. By the mid-1960s most builders had stopped building them - the only area of 1970s and 80s homes I know with them is the former Bob-O-Links golf course in Lakewood.
Hackberry Creek in Irving has quite a few P & B houses built in the 90s - not sure who the builders are, I assume custom.
06-13-2007, 08:37 AM
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There are also some nice pier and beams in Farmers Branch on the streets that run east-west between Webbs Chapel and Josey, south of Valley View and north of LBJ. They all end in "Lane" so we always called them the "Lane Family" streets. I've known many people that have lived in there. One did need some minor foundation work but that was it. Some of them might need some updating but you can't beat the location close to Mallard Park, close in to everything and DFW Airport. Large lots w/ LARGE trees.
The older homes across Jackson that I was referring to were built 60-63 and do not have pier and beams but are indeed slab foundations. These are your smaller tract homes that were being built back in that time across the area. Typically they run from about 1100-1500 sq ft, 3 bed and either 1-2 bathrooms and most only had a 1 car garage. Many have added onto the backside w/ large family rooms and such.
06-13-2007, 08:44 AM
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lh newbie, LMAO!!! I know what you mean. Have you caught the new show on the Fine Living Network called "Real Estate Confidential"? The one last night was a hoot. This young couple in LA have a nice redone 2bed/2bath 1500 sq ft home they wanted to sell since they just had a baby. Want to buy in Pacific Palisades BUT they had not found a house. They did not want to "sell" unless they had a place to move to themselves and NOT rental. The listing price was going to be $1.4M. The agent had a buyer the next day that made an offer of $1.5M and 3 months to let them leaseback the house. The sellers negged it and took the house off the market till they found something for themselves. The update at the end was it was a year later and they STILL had not found something but the buyer w/ cash in his hand moved on. LOL!!!
You have to wonder about some people. There are so many houses in great areas that need some updating that is not that much but the sellers think their house is a DIAMOND and just as good as the other house that sold that WAS updated. People do not want to come into a house that is fairly new and see it needs all new appliances, light fixtures (get rid of the cheap brass crap), faucets (same thing - the gold tone is OUT), dated wallpaper, original lowend carpet matted down, OUTRAGEOUS paint colors and slopply done (sorry a green so dark it looks black is NOT acceptable) and then the LOVELY RED plaid carpet in a bedroom we saw the other day
. And they won't budge on the price.
06-13-2007, 08:58 AM
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Ah yes, Momof2, the joys of buying a home. I am thoroughly convinced that people live with stuff so long they start to believe it's better than it really is.
In about another month, our master bath will be done (installed the tub yesterday - wife finally took her first real bath in the new house). Oil rubbed bronze faucets, travertine tile on the floor, tumbled marble as the backsplash around the tub and starting half way up the shower wall, rich dark new cabinets and silestone counters. Add to that a lot of little details like automatic lights in the closets, in-line heater in the tub (wife loves hour long baths... now she doesn't have to run more hot water all the time), a gorgeous small chandelier over the new tub and replacing of a regular door to the water close with a pocket door so the room doesn't feel cramped when you're going in/out along with new windows... and I think we have a winner. This will dramatically increase the value of the home, but just as important, allow my wife and I to thoroughly enjoy our experience in that room every time we use it.
I never understood upgrading a house right before you sell it - why not enjoy it while you live there?! We saw a show on HGTV one Saturday morning where the couple renovated the home for sale, then realized the renovation gave them everything they wanted in a new home and decided to stay.
Brian
06-13-2007, 09:04 AM
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That's one thing that worries me a bit about the resell value of our home. We have the gold faucets, all late 80's style and everything. We could easily start changing them out, especially the two sets that have the hot turned off to stop the leaks. But our master bath is a trouble spot. The jacuzzi tub has a garish gold fixture and the only way replace it is to remove the trim around the edge and pull the whole front panel off. It's one of those cultured marble slabs and I haven't figured out how it's attached.
Also how do you change the faucets on the showers? I really don't want to cut holes in the walls.
06-13-2007, 09:15 AM
Location: Fort Worth/Dallas
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Also how do you change the faucets on the showers? I really don't want to cut holes in the walls.
I'm waiting on an answer to this as well. I have some faucets that need replacing in the shower and wonder how far back you have to go to fix this. I'd hate to have to cut holes in the tile.
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People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)