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Unread 04-20-2010, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Funky Town, Texas
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Default Off duty Houston cops kills 18 year old boy in Arlington

Why is a Houston police officer fatally shooting an 18 year old boy in Arlington, Texas? Just goes to show you add a "Black Face" and its "trigger happy time". Just seem like a case where the officer over stepped his boundaries and made the situation a lot worse than it had to be.



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http://www.star-telegram.com/2010/04/19/2126445/off-duty-houston-officer-under.html (broken link)

Arlington teen fatally shot by off-duty Houston police officer | wfaa.com | News

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Unread 04-20-2010, 01:41 PM
 
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After reading the article, the officer was breaking up a gang related fight, identified himself and the dead teen repeatedly reached for a revolver tucked in his pants. Sounds like he prevented someone innocent from being shot.



ARLINGTON -- A neighbor who said he witnessed the moments before an off-duty Houston police officer (http://topics.star-telegram.com/Police_Officers.html#navlink=inline_to_topics - broken link) fatally shot an 18-year-old Monday said he saw the teen (http://topics.star-telegram.com/Adolescence.html#navlink=inline_to_topics - broken link) grabbing for a gun and heard the officer (http://topics.star-telegram.com/Police_Officers.html#navlink=inline_to_topics - broken link) repeatedly identify himself.
The neighbor, who asked not to be identified for fear of retaliation, said he saw what he believed to be a long-barreled revolver in the waistband of Clevonta Reynolds, who died of multiple gunshot wounds after the confrontation in a southeast Arlington neighborhood.
"He just kept pacing back and forth behind a car and wouldn’t follow the officer’s orders,” the neighbor said Tuesday. "You could see he had a gun in the front of his baggie pants."
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Unread 04-20-2010, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Plano, Texas
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After reading the article, the officer was breaking up a gang related fight, identified himself and the dead teen repeatedly reached for a revolver tucked in his pants. Sounds like he prevented someone innocent from being shot.



ARLINGTON -- A neighbor who said he witnessed the moments before an off-duty Houston police officer (http://topics.star-telegram.com/Police_Officers.html#navlink=inline_to_topics - broken link) fatally shot an 18-year-old Monday said he saw the teen (http://topics.star-telegram.com/Adolescence.html#navlink=inline_to_topics - broken link) grabbing for a gun and heard the officer (http://topics.star-telegram.com/Police_Officers.html#navlink=inline_to_topics - broken link) repeatedly identify himself.
The neighbor, who asked not to be identified for fear of retaliation, said he saw what he believed to be a long-barreled revolver in the waistband of Clevonta Reynolds, who died of multiple gunshot wounds after the confrontation in a southeast Arlington neighborhood.
"He just kept pacing back and forth behind a car and wouldn’t follow the officer’s orders,” the neighbor said Tuesday. "You could see he had a gun in the front of his baggie pants."
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^^^^^^^^
This.

Let's try not to make it out to be something it isn't.
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Unread 04-20-2010, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Funky Town, Texas
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Originally Posted by derekv View Post
After reading the article, the officer was breaking up a gang related fight, identified himself and the dead teen repeatedly reached for a revolver tucked in his pants. Sounds like he prevented someone innocent from being shot.



ARLINGTON -- A neighbor who said he witnessed the moments before an off-duty Houston police officer (http://topics.star-telegram.com/Police_Officers.html#navlink=inline_to_topics - broken link) fatally shot an 18-year-old Monday said he saw the teen (http://topics.star-telegram.com/Adolescence.html#navlink=inline_to_topics - broken link) grabbing for a gun and heard the officer (http://topics.star-telegram.com/Police_Officers.html#navlink=inline_to_topics - broken link) repeatedly identify himself.
The neighbor, who asked not to be identified for fear of retaliation, said he saw what he believed to be a long-barreled revolver in the waistband of Clevonta Reynolds, who died of multiple gunshot wounds after the confrontation in a southeast Arlington neighborhood.
"He just kept pacing back and forth behind a car and wouldn’t follow the officer’s orders,” the neighbor said Tuesday. "You could see he had a gun in the front of his baggie pants."
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Read more: Slain teen had gun, refused to obey officer's commands, neighbor says | Arlington | News... (http://www.star-telegram.com/2010/04/19/2126445/off-duty-houston-officer-under.html#ixzz0lffHMzIz - broken link)
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If all the teens scattered after the officer identified himself than no one was in danger. What the officer could have done since he is over 4 hours from his jurisdiction is called the Arlington Police department instead of trying to be Mr. Superman and break up a group fight involving WOMEN. Also the neighbor stated the young man never actually pulled out a gun on the officer. Where is this magical gun the officer claimed the suspect had?
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Unread 04-20-2010, 02:10 PM
 
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So I'm guessing he wasn't an honors student?
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Unread 04-20-2010, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Funky Town, Texas
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There is also reports of a car crash and the involvment of the Houston police officer brother. It still remains to be seen if officer was in the car with the brother, was he carrying a gun at the time, or did the brother call the police officer to come to the scene before the Arlington Police Department showed up. This is going to get very ugly.
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Unread 04-20-2010, 02:57 PM
 
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It doesn't really matter much that he was "out of his jurisdiction". Certified peace officers in the state of Texas essentially are on duty wherever they are in the state, and generally carry their weapons and have a certain responsibility to protect lives.

If the young man was clearly reaching for a gun visible to the officer, and wouldn't obey his lawful commands, then getting shot is a risk he took. If not, maybe the officer is in the wrong. I'm sure the investigation will give answers, since there were several witnesses. You are jumping to conclusions by suggesting it was "trigger happy time". Geesh.
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Unread 04-20-2010, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Plano, TX
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If all the teens scattered after the officer identified himself than no one was in danger. What the officer could have done since he is over 4 hours from his jurisdiction is called the Arlington Police department instead of trying to be Mr. Superman and break up a group fight involving WOMEN. Also the neighbor stated the young man never actually pulled out a gun on the officer. Where is this magical gun the officer claimed the suspect had?
So if you were in Arlington or Dallas, and your life was threatened by a bunch of hoodlums, would you ask an armed Houston police officer that was watching the disturbance to call the local police department?

I think all the facts will come out, they usually do. But give them time and let's not hypothesize too much.
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Unread 04-20-2010, 03:12 PM
 
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So a cop tells someone to do something, while pointing a gun at them, and not only does the idiot not do it, he makes a sudden move towards his pants?

That's a no-brainer. You take the shot.

Instead of being upset by the cop shooting the kid who was too stupid or arrogant to obey instructions, why not turn that anger on the culture of gang violence and the parental apathy that puts an 18-year-old kid in a situation like this?
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Unread 04-20-2010, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Plano, TX (Russell Creek)
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Also the neighbor stated the young man never actually pulled out a gun on the officer. Where is this magical gun the officer claimed the suspect had?
Police are trained to look for signs. If the suspect reaches for something in his pants, police are trained to assume its a gun.

Bottom line, if a policeman tells you to do something, its best to do it (especially if he is pointing a gun at you).
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