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Old 06-15-2007, 02:51 PM
 
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Kaykay - I agree with what you're saying.

If someone lives in a neighborhood that has a lot of crime happening, you are certainly more likely to be directly affected by said crime.

If that person moves to a neighborhood that has a low crime rate, they are proportionately less likely to be affected by a crime.

I think the formula is pretty basic... take your neighborhood crime rate and add or subtract your "street smarts" and avoidance of situations and you have your overall likelihood of being involved. There are things we can all do to decrease the odd we will be affected.

As an example, my wife lived near Mockingbird/Central before we got married. There were lots of smash and grabs in the neighborhood. But let's compare our TWO vehicles with her neighbor's one. We never left anything in plain sight. We didn't get our windows knocked out. Her neighbor left tools in plain sight all the time, and he had 3 incidents. Pretty simple if you ask me.
Half of Mockingbird and Central is in HP and UP...
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Old 06-19-2007, 05:45 PM
 
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A good friend of ours is a Dallas police officer. He thought that the impression that Dallas had this out of control crime issue was largely because people in Dallas REPORT EVERY CRIME. That isn't the case in many big cities. Things like vandalism and petty theft go on other logs, but here they get wrapped up with major crime. First of all, Dallas is a city with all that implies. You lock your doors, don't go to strange neighborhoods at night and you don't get into arguements with gang members. On the other hand, knock wood, other than a few random incidents with car vandalism, we have been pretty safe. Not every neighborhood can be perfect, but it can get better. Much of the crime in local areas is gang related against illegal aliens, who are fearful of losing their positions and avoid reporting crimes. That is why you hear so much happening in the Greenville and northwest Dallas areas.
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Old 06-19-2007, 08:42 PM
 
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i read about murders all the time happening in dallas but when i read the details its in areas ive never heard of. so dont live in the ghetto and you'll be okay
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Old 06-20-2007, 04:21 PM
 
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the impression that Dallas had this out of control crime issue was largely because people in Dallas REPORT EVERY CRIME.
That is a factor... the only thing the police have to go by are reports... the percentage of crimes that are reported varies from city to city, according to one FBI study. And this difference may be larger than the crime rate itself.

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i read about murders all the time happening in dallas but when i read the details its in areas ive never heard of. so dont live in the ghetto and you'll be okay
True... if you don't live in a ghetto, you're less likely to be caught in a drive-by shooting, or have a gang force you to pay protection money for your little mom-and-pop grocery.

That's another story... if a gang is extorting money from you, how likely are you to report it to the police and have it entered in the police department's statistics? Sooner or later the gang will retaliate.
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Old 06-20-2007, 05:08 PM
 
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I live in East Dallas/Lakewood and I have forgotten to lock my doors and car now and then - nothing has happened. Once, my front door blew open because I didn't shut it properly. I was gone several hours and nothing happened. It was a nice day so the neighbors probably figured I was airing out the house. I have also fallen asleep with my back door open many times. And I have left windows open accidentally also...once a cat got inside - boy that was a mistake because of my dogs.
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Old 06-20-2007, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Topeka, KS
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You people should try small town living sometime. When we purchased our home in Milford, we didn't get keys. The previous owner's hadn't locked their door but twice for vacations in the 10 years they were there. (And even then, they locked the door and then climbed out the front porch window, which had been painted unlocked for years.)
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Old 06-21-2007, 06:38 AM
 
Location: Lake Highlands (Dallas)
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Once, my front door blew open because I didn't shut it properly. I was gone several hours and nothing happened.
I'd hate to see your HVAC bill for that time! You could report that TXU was stealing your money.
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Old 06-21-2007, 07:36 AM
 
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What about New Orleans? Thats quite odd that its not on there.
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This list is just for Dallas city, not the suburbs, but it says a lot about Dallas' hyper-exaggerated reputation for violent crime.

I went to the FBI website and pulled some numbers for violent crimes in various municipalities. I dvided crimes by population to get violent crimes per thousand. Dallas is not so bad.

Take a look"

1 Flint MI 25.97
2 St Louis MO 24.81
3 Detroit MI 24.22
4 Memphis TN 19.88
5 Orlando FL 19.83
6 Oakland CA 18.96
7 Little Rock AR 17.81
8 Baltimore MD 16.96
9 Philadelphia PA 15.62
10 Atlanta GA 15.54
11 Cleveland OH 15.47
12 Nashville TN 15.27
13 Miami FL 15.09
14 Springfield MA 14.82
15 St Petersburg FL 14.82
16 Stockton CA 14.81
17 Washington DC 14.48
18 Kansas City MO 14.44
19 Buffalo NY 14.11
20 Baton Rouge LA 14.03
21 Birmingham AL 13.59
22 Boston MA 13.39
23 Milwaukee WI 13.25
24 Pompano Beach FL 12.90
25 Tulsa OK 12.48
26 Chattanooga TN 12.29
27 Cincinatti OH 12.18
28 Sacramento CA 12.06
29 Dallas TX 12.06

The table I pulled is at http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/06prelim/excels/2006table4.xls (broken link)

One reason that Orlando, Florida has such high numbers is that it ignores the millions of people who visit. Its rate is based on the number of people who live in Orlando, and ignores the number who visit.

Las Vegas is not on the list. I guess that what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas.
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Old 06-21-2007, 08:39 AM
 
Location: The Big D
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What about New Orleans? Thats quite odd that its not on there.
That is because they moved. I'm sure if one were to look at some of the cities listed and compare their crime rates to pre-Katrina and how many people from NO relocated there or were put up there it would show why.
These are the cities I'd think saw a pretty sizeable chunk of people from NO and I'm VERY surprised Houston is not on that list because of it. Disclaimer - I do NOT want to start another D vs H thread AT ALL!!!


St Louis MO
Memphis TN
Orlando FL - so touristy is why it probably is there
Little Rock AR
Baltimore MD
Atlanta GA
Nashville TN
Kansas City MO - wonder if KC saw a large influx ??
Baton Rouge LA
Birmingham AL
Tulsa OK
Chattanooga TN
Dallas TX
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Old 06-23-2007, 02:26 PM
 
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The Dallas Police Dept is the most corrupt government I know of since the fall of Sadamn Hussein. Their crime statistics can't be trusted because they are too many ways for the police to lie about their numbers.
Why my bad attitude? Here's one of many examples I could describe:
On Thursday, 6/21, I called Dallas police as I watched a thief stripping wire from a utility pole. After 25 minutes and two more calls, a 911 operator says a patrolman had responded 8 minutes after my first call and did not see me or anyone stealing anything. We reconfirmed addresses, etc, but it was clear that, again, I had called the Dallas Police just to have another corrupt cop blow it off. I complained to 2 different police supervisors and they both bragged about their excellent response time! "The patrolman had responded within 8 minutes after my call!" Too bad they weren't as excited that the dirty cop had lied and never went to the scene.
There are many fine people in Dallas but I would be a bad citizen if I didn't admit that there is deep institutionalized corruption and crime in the Dallas city government.
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