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Old 04-30-2012, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Cincinnati
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^but the poor curb appeal is part of the problem...that the place looks so shabby....
Well, litter isn't driving off companies. That never was the problem. Though I am in favor of picking it up.
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Old 04-30-2012, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Covington, KY
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Litter is less visible when a bunch of people are in the way.
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Old 04-30-2012, 06:39 PM
 
Location: Cincinnati
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Litter is less visible when a bunch of people are in the way.
True!
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Old 04-30-2012, 10:44 PM
 
Location: A voice of truth, shouted down by fools.
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Litter and squalor start out as a symptom. They can become a reason - a cause - why a city is rejected for new business sites, though. Who wants to locate a business in a dirty city?
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Old 06-26-2012, 03:44 PM
 
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If you could go back in time and do it over again, the fairgrounds land is where the UD Arena should have been built. Having the arena shoehorned between the river and I-75 was a shortsighted decision made to cater to suburban ticket holders and it completely discounted UD students. I've walked from Brown Street to the arena in February and it's not a fun 20 minutes. When it's raining or snowing, forget it.

Also, due to its lousy location adjacent to a floodplain, it's taken nearly 40 years of arena existence for anything to be built nearby - the hotel and the woefully located UD baseball stadium. Had UD Arena been built on the fairgrounds land, who knows what we might have seen develop there in the past four decades? It's likely that the area would have been built up with hotels, restaurants and other amenities catering to students/fans rather than the relative isolation and highway-exit junk the arena is surrounded by now.
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Old 06-27-2012, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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Hindsight is always 20/20. Forty-five+ years ago when UD Arena was planned and built, the area around the fairgrounds was not the post-industrial wasteland it became as NCR began to wind itself down; there was nowhere to build on or near campus and I don't believe the fairgrounds was held in such contempt then as it seems to be now by some.

Student access was never an issue because that's what renting those big yellow buses is for (and anyway, it's been my experience that UD has been known for discounting its students on occasion).

Anyway, students don't want or need "amenities". They want cheap beer.
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Old 06-27-2012, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Cincinnati
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Anyway, students don't want or need "amenities". They want cheap beer.
True dat. But don't tell their parents that. I have a brother (20 years my junior) at UNC Charlotte. Amenities played in big time with my parents decision to send him there.
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Old 06-27-2012, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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True dat. But don't tell their parents that.
Oh, heck, we've already lived it!
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Old 06-27-2012, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Cincinnati
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Living in CUF, I think most students hop out of bed and rush off to class, then hot foot it home to the nearest can of beer. Even for all the amenities around UC, I would guesstimate a fraction of the students care.
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Old 07-06-2012, 02:28 PM
 
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Living in CUF, I think most students hop out of bed and rush off to class, then hot foot it home to the nearest can of beer. Even for all the amenities around UC, I would guesstimate a fraction of the students care.
I do that to this day, with two major exceptions:

- I don't have to attend class

- I prefer bottles over cans
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