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Old 06-01-2012, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Cincinnati
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Jeez, we were close neighbors. Too bad we never met, you seem like a good person.
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Old 06-01-2012, 06:35 PM
 
Location: Cincinnati
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Snarky comment redacted.

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Old 06-01-2012, 06:44 PM
 
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Riverdale is a slice next to Dayton View in near NW Dayton. Google it, you can see the neighborhood outlines. At one time (pre-WWII) it was a classy area.

Riverside was formerly Mad River Township before it was incorporated and was always the close-in, industrial/residential cousin of WPAFB - middle class to slightly scuzzy.
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Old 06-02-2012, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Covington, KY
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Riverdale is a slice next to Dayton View in near NW Dayton. Google it, you can see the neighborhood outlines. At one time (pre-WWII) it was a classy area.
The houses aren't that different from other parts of town. What's not there is more the deciding factor, namely big factories and "institutions." "Walk aways" from Dayton State wouldn't have found a walk too convenient. Also, reportedly it was a more solvent part of town, possibly a Jewish influence. And, the Jews have left the city.
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Old 06-02-2012, 02:07 PM
 
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I didn't realize there was a little neighborhood over on the west side called Riverdale. I thought it went from McPherson Town right into Five Oaks once you crossed the interstate, and then into Santa Clara. I'll say one thing about Riverdale. It's ghetto now. Parts of Five Oaks and Grafton Hill are still nicer, and liveable. I love the bigger houses in Five Oaks, you can really tell that neighborhood was really nice not too long ago.

Santa Clara is around 40% vacant last I heard. It's one of the worst hoods in Dayton.
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Old 06-02-2012, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Covington, KY
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I didn't realize there was a little neighborhood over on the west side called Riverdale. I thought it went from McPherson Town right into Five Oaks once you crossed the interstate, and then into Santa Clara. I'll say one thing about Riverdale. It's ghetto now. Parts of Five Oaks and Grafton Hill are still nicer, and liveable. I love the bigger houses in Five Oaks, you can really tell that neighborhood was really nice not too long ago.

Santa Clara is around 40% vacant last I heard. It's one of the worst hoods in Dayton.
Riverdale is the length of North Main Street -- there's two sides to North Main Street going about four miles mostly due north (not west) and from the river (Stillwater) to a sort of jagged line between Main and Salem.

It used to be just Riverdale, maybe 20,000 people. Then it was kind of separated into Lower Riverdale (McPherson Town), Middle Riverdale and Upper Riverdale. More recently, since the additional neighborhoods have been formed, other names such as Santa Clara have been added to the mix, but last I looked there was still Middle Riverdale. That's not a particularly wealthy area. Many of the homes were in the flood.

FROC -- the north central priority board -- stands for Fair-River-Oaks Council -- Fairview, Riverdale and Five Oaks.

And, to an extent there is a postal zone reference. The post office for 45405 used to be at Main and Ridge, but it was "inconvient" for the big trucks, so service was moved Forest Park (45415). Some neighborhood (Five Oaks is a prime example) straddle both the western side of Riverdale and the eastern side of Dayton View (45406).
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Old 06-02-2012, 04:11 PM
 
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Old 06-02-2012, 04:41 PM
 
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You're welcome. Feel free to add reputation. Mine's legitimate.
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Old 06-03-2012, 09:47 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MO
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^^ I lived in Dayton proper and agree totally. I found many of the locals standoffish, cliquish, and down right uneducated. Not to say that there aren't a lot of good folks around. But they never seemed to take kindly to transplants, yet they are bleeding population.
After spending this past Friday and Saturday with my OWN family and their social surroundings in Kansas City, KS (not much different from what's being discussed here), I wonder why I even took issue with this comment. You were right from the beginning. I was trying to be too nice and was being too idealistic. It's striking how uneducated and unsophisticated and really just not very smart some folks are and my tolerance was running short toward the end of my short visit. I came home and told one of my roommates I don't know how I turned out so different from those people. Everything negative that's been mentioned in this thread is pretty much the truth.
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Old 06-04-2012, 12:01 PM
 
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To add to the commentary about the mass social retardation and barbarianism of Daytonians:

When I was a kid growing up in Dayton - whenever one of my family would travel to some other city or whenever we'd take a vacation trip, the most glowing thing that any of us could possibly say about some other area was this: "people will even talk to you there." Usually uttered in some astonishment.

I grew up fairly withdrawn and I thought that was the norm. Then when I moved out of the area I found out what a normal (not Daytonian-stupid) US person was like.

In the rest of the US if you are courteous you can engage a complete stranger to ask them directions, etc. In Dayton it was fairly normal to get a sneering or sarcastic reply or to be ignored if you'd make a similar outreach.

I've lived all over the country. Daytonians are more jaded and sarcastic than people I knew where I lived and worked for awhile in New Jersey (supposedly the pinnacle of sarcasm and jaded manners).

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