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Old 10-28-2012, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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If one prefers a more urban/bohemian/"creative class" environment or lifestyle, this area is lacking (though one can get ones' "fix" of this kind of scene in Cincy or Columbus).
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Or you could just look a little harder and find it in Dayton.

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I remember very well the nasty, unthinking, redneck racism and xenophobia that was so very common around Dayton when I was a kid growing up in the 70s.
Dayton was not, and is not, unique in that respect.
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Old 10-28-2012, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Cincinnati
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If one prefers a more urban/bohemian/"creative class" environment or lifestyle, this area is lacking (though one can get ones' "fix" of this kind of scene in Cincy or Columbus).
Ohiogirl81 is right. There is a small urban/bohemian/"creative class" scene in Dayton.

One need look no further than Dayton Most Metro. South Park Tavern is also a popular haunt for these types of folks. Many of them used to post here as well. In Dayton this scene is sort of centered around downtown, South Park, Oregon District, and Saint Anne's Hill.

These folks are very committed to Dayton and are willing to stick with Dayton to make it better.
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Old 10-29-2012, 03:35 PM
 
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rebek,

We live just outside of Grandview Heights. It is nice because we are minutes from all the shops and restaurants in Grandview but we are technically located in Columbus proper. It is a good Condo complex with great neighbors. There are plenty of condos in Columbus that would fit your interests as Columbus has a lot of great urban neighborhoods.
Thanks. We'll keep it in mind when the time comes.
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Old 10-30-2012, 08:16 AM
 
Location: "Daytonnati"
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As for Dayton. I lived there for five years. It was simply the most pessimistic place that I ever lived. I almost felt that if i stayed, I would adopt that attitude.
Hah, yes...the Dayton Vortex of Despair! Or, as a co-worker of mine called it, "The Dayton Gloom" (he was also talking about the weather).
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Old 10-30-2012, 08:22 AM
 
Location: "Daytonnati"
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Ohiogirl81 is right. There is a small urban/bohemian/"creative class" scene in Dayton.
....or Yellow Springs, which goes along with my remarks that this is a great area of subruban/small-town quality of life. Yellow Springs is the suburban small town with the urban bohemian scene....where the people in this area go if they want that type of thing.

It's pretty remarkable how well-attended their events are. The relatively new craft fair they had, and that long-running fall street fair, are quite popular!


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Old 10-30-2012, 08:35 AM
 
Location: "Daytonnati"
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These folks are very committed to Dayton and are willing to stick with Dayton to make it better.

...but not enough to make a difference or really change the local culture enough so that the city has a fighting chance. What goes on here is pretty weak & tenous, IMO.

Despite these negative comments about a certain...what...lifestyle thing or urban culture thing...I do value the quality of life in the region and that it has offereings in things that I've become more interested in and active in.

Change ones frame of reference and this area starts to look pretty good. The lemon becomes lemonade.
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Old 10-30-2012, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Cincinnati
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One need look no further than Dayton Most Metro. South Park Tavern is also a popular haunt for these types of folks. Many of them used to post here as well. In Dayton this scene is sort of centered around downtown, South Park, Oregon District, and Saint Anne's Hill.

These folks are very committed to Dayton and are willing to stick with Dayton to make it better.
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....or Yellow Springs
To be clear I am talking about Dayton proper.
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Old 10-30-2012, 04:40 PM
 
Location: A voice of truth, shouted down by fools.
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Ok, here's how I see it. The "holistic" picture is like this.

In Dayton, if you are eccentric, have a colorful personality, are "real", or are simply not a grey, boring person, you probably will have trouble being accepted and fitting in. Daytonians as a rule don't like different or non conformity.

As a "free spirit", your best bet here is to find your way into one or more cliques of similar minded people.

The cliques of SW Ohio are the cornerstone of social intercourse in this region. If you don't have a clique membership you're screwed. It's a hard area to move into, again. Cliques are supportive, nurturing, and often, very hostile and unsympathetic to outsiders - having in some cases, as necessary for the protection of clique members, a siege mentality. So the best ones can be hard to get into.

I posit that the bohemian scene mentioned above is one face of this kind of protective affiliation.

So get your clique membership.
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:56 PM
 
Location: Cincinnati
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So get your clique membership.
Dayton is EXTREMELY cliquish.
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Old 10-30-2012, 10:02 PM
 
Location: A voice of truth, shouted down by fools.
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It's almost like I wrote a commercial on how to be a Daytonian.
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