The Downfall Of Dayton (Montgomery, Louisville: income, property tax rates, moving to)

[ohio_peasant]

Originally Posted by randomparent

Husband graduated with a technology degree from Wright State in 1990. It wasn't long before the recruiters started calling from the west coast, luring him with jobs and a pay scale that put local offerings to shame. We left in 1995 for the Bay Area, because, really, what was there in Dayton that could compete? We now live in another booming tech market. Dayton will always have a place in my heart, and sometimes I fantasize about returning (I am a fifth-gen Daytonian, a sixth-gen Ohioan, and a city street is named after my family), but cold, hard reality smacks me hard in the face every time I visit. There is nothing there for me any more.

Interesting! In the above description, take the negation of nearly every sentence, and that describes my situation.... Grew up and graduated from college elsewhere, got an offer from Wright-Patterson that I couldn't refuse, moved to Dayton shortly before 1995. If I could get a comparable civil-service position in California (NOT Edwards AFB!), I'd move in the proverbial heartbeat. Otherwise, it's imperative to make the best of the present situation.

[SWOH]

Originally Posted by Dayton Sux

Thank you.

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Well, I guess we can say the downfall of Dayton was, in part, Pleasantville turning "colored".

Anytime! Glad to see we are on the same page. I hope as time passes more people realize this.

[CarpathianPeasant]

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So, this was in regard to the unstableness of the minor aristocracy -- a common concern outside of special places like New York City, Washington, D.C. and a few towns in places like California and Texas, but not everywhere.

Now, apart from Cox institutions, is it any wonder the town is heavily into the Democratic party and Republicans have a hard time?

[hensleya1]

Originally Posted by CarpathianPeasant

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So, this was in regard to the unstableness of the minor aristocracy -- a common concern outside of special places like New York City, Washington, D.C. and a few towns in places like California and Texas, but not everywhere.

Now, apart from Cox institutions, is it any wonder the town is heavily into the Democratic party and Republicans have a hard time?

Well, that is an issue of political boundaries. You have a case where almost anybody who is going to reliably vote Republican - white, middle class, conservative, paying too many taxes, upset with school busing, insert your reason here - decided it was better to leave the city than it was to try and stay and fight what City Hall was pushing on everyone.

Ir's rare to find any central city with an elected Republican mayor anymore. The suburbs on the other hand...

Courts tried in the past to mandate busing across city and county lines, but it was shot down... hence when Dayton started busing, Kettering and Centerville seemed like more viable options.

Although Montgomery County is dominated by the Democratic Party, that isn't due to any electoral genius on their part - the county splits roughly 55-45 and there's no reason the Republicans can't be competitive... apart from their own electoral incompetence. That said, a lot of Republican voters moved to the other side of County Line Road (and continue to do so today).... making Greene County completely dominated by Republicans.

I don't have a number off hand, but I'd consider the whole region to be pretty balanced.

[jfre81]

"The state of perfect balance"



Gerrymandering ftw

[IDtheftV]

There is no reason there should ever be any human interaction in setting up electoral boundaries. No good reason, that is.

[jfre81]

Originally Posted by IDtheftV

No good reason, that is.

There are good reasons from the perspective of the incumbents and their respective parties. No good reason for the rest of us. A thoroughly broken and corrupt system.

[SWOH]

Just wanted to +1 both of jfre81's points on this page of the thread.

Couldn't have said it better myself, and due to my current time crunch I won't haha

[CarpathianPeasant]

Originally Posted by hensleya1

Well, that is an issue of political boundaries. You have a case where almost anybody who is going to reliably vote Republican - white, middle class, conservative, paying too many taxes, upset with school busing, insert your reason here - decided it was better to leave the city than it was to try and stay and fight what City Hall was pushing on everyone.

Ir's rare to find any central city with an elected Republican mayor anymore. The suburbs on the other hand...

Courts tried in the past to mandate busing across city and county lines, but it was shot down... hence when Dayton started busing, Kettering and Centerville seemed like more viable options.

Although Montgomery County is dominated by the Democratic Party, that isn't due to any electoral genius on their part - the county splits roughly 55-45 and there's no reason the Republicans can't be competitive... apart from their own electoral incompetence. That said, a lot of Republican voters moved to the other side of County Line Road (and continue to do so today).... making Greene County completely dominated by Republicans.

I don't have a number off hand, but I'd consider the whole region to be pretty balanced.

Apparently "unstableness of the minor aristocracy" is an alien concept.

[Natural510]

Party affiliation of city politicians doesn't mean much in the end, as they're directly beholden to their electorate and accessible by default. The higher you climb up the ladder, the more party politics come into play....and the entire Miami Valley on the state & federal level is represented by Republicans.