08-05-2008, 08:07 AM
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My husband is considering a position with a tech company in Dayton. While there seem to be many threads on Dayton, they seem geared towards people with slightly different interests and goals.
We are childless, in our late 30s. We currently live in Chicago proper, in a very ethnically, politically and economically diverse neighborhood. We value this diversity. Food is important to us and we don't really fancy chain places.
With these things in mind, is there an area of the city we might enjoy or do we need to look at Cincinnati, having my husband commute in daily? We really aren't looking to live in the suburbs.
Thanks.
08-05-2008, 11:53 AM
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As a DAYTONnatian, I can honestly say that Cincinnati is overrated. The Oregon district can match or beat ANYTHING Cincinnati could offer, and it is much safer than similar places in Cincinnati auch as, Over-the-Rhine, where a riot happened in 2001. This area sounds ideal for you with its large, diverse, creative-class presence. Also, if Tech Town is ever built, it will provide many high-income tech-related jobs within walking distance (depending on your tolerance for walking).
08-05-2008, 01:04 PM
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Both Dayton and Cincinnati have great neighborhoods that would work for you. Oregon District in Dayton. In Cincinnati, you have Clifton and downtown offer housing that might appeal to you. If you want a more small town feel ...try Yellow Springs, Ohio.
08-06-2008, 02:29 PM
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Both Daytonnatian and Mike Dunn are correct. Oregon District and Village of Yellow Springs (the home of Antioch College).
08-07-2008, 02:45 PM
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Hi Lisa_O,
I was born and raised in Dayton (lived there for 25 years, and went to college there), but have now lived in Lakeview, in Chicago (Southport area), for the past 10 years. If you can tell me what neighborhood in Chicago you live in, and exactly what you are looking for lifestyle-wise, I can probably give you some specific feedback about how to find something in Dayton that is comparable to Chicago.
I can say this tho, Dayton is much smaller, and is not as exciting as Chicago, however Dayton is a very diverse city, with pretty much every ethnic group represented. If you have ever visited Indianapolis, I say it is laid out more similar to Indianapolis (however, I feel it is much better than Indy, as far as cities go). If diversity is very important to you, it is there, however black-white race relations in Dayton are not as good as they are in Chicago. Politically, Dayton itself tends to vote Democrat, and the suburbs vote Republican.
Dayton has a small neighborhood known as the Oregon District, located on East Fifth Street, which is more similar to a Wrigleyville, or Wicker Park, meaning it has a small village feel, a coffee shop or two, many bars, a record store, some art murals, an "underground" bookstore, risque/progressive fashion shops, cobblestone streets, an alternative newspaper etc. And if you manage to find an apartment in that neighborhood (although there wont be many choices), then everything will be walking distance, if that is what you are looking for.
There is another small neighborhood, close by, that caters to the University of Dayton, on Brown Street, and has restaurants and a few bars.
Other than that, most places within the city limits of Dayton do not identify themselves wih a pre-defined neighborhood. Dayton is a big city, but is small enough, that one can live in the burbs and VERY EASILY go downtown to visit, with maybe a 15 or 20 minute drive. So if you want to pick a suburb that works for you, you can always drive downtown if you need to get that "urban" fix.
Also - one really interesting suburb, that has an urban feel, is Oakwood, OH. It is very pricey, and is the home of Dayton's "old money" crowd. It is a beautiful, sophisticated town, and it literally less than 2 or 3 miles, I think, from downtown Dayton. The south burbs, which include Oakwood, Centerville, and Kettering, are considered to be very upscale and if you combine them with downtown dayton, then you have a large "neighborhood" which should fill most people's needs, lifestyle-wise.
I think Cincinnati is actually a beautiful city, and is only 40 miles from Dayton. Cinci and Dayton are considered "cousins" due to their close proximity, but are actually very very different cities, as Dayton is built on a flat geography (similar to Chicago), while Cinci is built on large hills (more like San Francisco). But at the same time, it is a city that identifies much more with unique neighborhoods and pockets, the same way Chicago does. The neighborhoods on the east side of Cinci, such as Hyde Park, Oakley, and Mt Adams, are considered to be the "better" neighborhoods, income wise, and the western hoods are considered to be more "edgy". The Over-the-Rhine neighborhood, just north of downtown cinci, is full of great, turn of the century architecture. It used to be a german immigrant neighborhood, and you can still very easily see this in the local architecture. For a long time, OTR was VERY dangerous; people were getting shot there every day, but now gentrification is taking place.
Cinci has a lot of diversity, but from what I have heard, race relations are REALLY not that good there. Plus, if you are used to the hard core liberalness of Chicago, you will be in for a shock; the Cinci region is conservative, family-oriented, union member types (the Reagan Democrats), who are now more prone to vote for conservative GOP candidates.
Hope this helps, but again, if you tell me more about what exactly you are looking for, I will be happy to respond with more info that can help you find that!
08-07-2008, 03:06 PM
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wow. . .smartgxl covered most of what I was going to say. But, I would also suggest that the historic areas of Dayton would be of value to Lisa. Look at Southpark, which is diverse and has a real community feel. Also, the same goes for St. Anne's Hill area. I think the Oregon District has been covered. I think you'd also LOVE Oakwood, as it is probably one of the more tolerant places in the area b/c most of the residents are highly educated. (In Oakwood: Eastside are the college professor types, Westside are the CEO types) Everything is walkable in Oakwood.
Yellow Springs is straight out of the 60's with love and happiness for all. It's a laid back place where everyone is seen as equal. It also has a very large gay population for the small size of its town. Yellow springs is also about 20 minutes from Dayton and 50 from Columbus. ..(everything in YS is walkable.)
As for the Commute from Cincy, if you decide to live there. . .it can be done and lots of people do it, but 75 gets very clogged during rush hour, so your hubby is probably looking at an hour and a half commute. . .I'd probably not advise it, but I leave that up to you. Any other time that's not during peak rush hour, you can make it from Dayton to Cincy in about 45 minutes.
Also, if you like lofts or condos, there are lots of great options in Downtown Dayton. Look at The Landing, The Cannery, Cooper Lofts, Ice Ave. Lofts, Firefly Lofts...etc.
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08-07-2008, 06:04 PM
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Bravo on smartgxl and pftcttimeofday.
Oakwood is where "West Wing" Actress
Allison Janney grew up.
Few miles north of her house is
South Park, where Actor Martin Sheen (real name: Ramón Gerardo Antonio Estévez) grew up on Brown Street and attended Chaminade HS (now Chaminade-Julienne High School)
Third "West Wing" actor, Rob Lowe, also grew up in Oakwood and attended Oakwood High School
08-08-2008, 10:55 AM
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Amerideaf,
What you said about the actors is true! And, actually my father went to Chaminade High School, and knew Martin Sheen!
PRFCT - youa re right; I forgot about South Park. There is also another neighborhood, called patterson park, which is great. It is within the city limits of Dayton, but borders the city limits with Oakwood. So, living in patterson park is almost identical to living in Oakwood, except the housing would cost less.
Actually, Oakwood, Patterson park, South Park, the Oregon District, and downtown are all pretty much contiguous and next to each other, so living in any of these areas would give you a pretty good, sophisticated, urban-esque lifestyle.
08-19-2008, 08:29 PM
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SmartGXL, thank you so much for your response. It was great to hear from someone who knows both places. My husband and I currently live in the East Rogers Park neighborhood but I've also lived in Ukrainian Village and Lakeview. Your description of Cincinnati was interesting. While I do like a bigger city, I don't think we'd be terribly happy in a really conservative environment.
I have seen a couple of really cool homes online in the Oregon District and am glad to hear a little about it here.
A big concern for us is food and wine. I know that there is a Whole Foods in Columbus but don't know what options are available in Dayton. We love Chicago for its food and eat out quite a bit. We aren't into chains nor are we into see or be seen places with substandard food. Can you give me any recommendations? In Chicago we like anything from $5 bowls of Pho on Argyle to the 15 course tasting at Avenues.
Again, thanks to everyone for their help and advice. I actually feel quite a bit better about this getting more possible move.
08-19-2008, 11:01 PM
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Cinci has a lot of diversity, but from what I have heard, race relations are REALLY not that good there. Plus, if you are used to the hard core liberalness of Chicago, you will be in for a shock; the Cinci region is conservative, family-oriented, union member types (the Reagan Democrats), who are now more prone to vote for conservative GOP candidates.\
Is this because we have a black mayor who is a democrat?
Is this because our vice-mayor is a democrat 2 with children that are gay?
Is this because the majority of our city council are democrats with one being a member of the charter committee?
Is this because J. Kerry won the city by a 60% vote?
Is this because there are gay bars/clubs/communities/gayborhoods scattered throughout the city?
Is this because we have a ridiculously large gay pride festival and parade?
Is this because half the city is black and half the city is white with a similar percentage being from 2 or more races?
Is this because our population, minority population, and foreign-born population are growing?
Or, is this because we had a race "riot" almost a decade ago?
I'm very curious as to what makes Dayton more "liberal" then Cincinnati? Can anyone post examples?
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Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)