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Old 09-16-2009, 12:05 PM
 
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Dayton is a highly segregated town. You have nice areas like Beavercreek, Vandalia, JKettering, Miamisburg, Centerville, etc...then you have shady parts of the region. Thus, what occurs is the concentration of poverty. This same effect happens in many cities across the nation. Inner Detroit is extremely dangerous, yet it's suburbs are very nice.

A lack of jobs is part of the problem. The economy can't support it's base. When this occurs, theoretically, people seek alternative means of support (crime).

Dayton may only have 200k people, but the metro area nearly 900k, with Dayton being the largest city.
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Old 09-16-2009, 12:44 PM
 
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^The metro area is roughly 950k, depending on what you include.

For instance, many sections of Butler and Warren county really do identify with Dayton and its MSA, such as Springboro and Middletown (where I'm from), but are statistically categorized with Cincinnati. In actuality, a seperate MSA for Dayton makes little sense.
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Old 09-17-2009, 08:46 AM
 
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I think one of the key factors that is being overlooked here is interstates 70/75. A lot of drugs are transported over these roads and Dayton is one of the stops along the way. Yes, poverty, job losses, etc. but the interstates, as good as they are for legitimate businesses are just as good for the drug trade.
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Old 09-17-2009, 05:25 PM
 
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^Interesting point, but I can definitely see that being a factor. However, it is kinda rare to hear about drug busts along the highways, though.
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Old 09-18-2009, 11:20 PM
 
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Dayton should just tear down the inner city and start over.
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Old 09-19-2009, 05:02 AM
 
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^Interesting point, but I can definitely see that being a factor. However, it is kinda rare to hear about drug busts along the highways, though.
Daytonnatian, I can GUARANTEE that if you're driving a vehicle with out-of-state plates (especially from the Southwest) and the cops have ANY probable cause to pull you over, they will. I run I-70 frequently and see it on a regular basis. Drugs are found on a semi-regular basis. In fact, there was just an item about two men in a big truck being arrested with a large quantity of pot in their trailer.
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Old 09-19-2009, 05:11 AM
 
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^Thanks for the info!!!!!!!!!!

I was just going by what I know about crime stuff from reading the DDN every day.
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Old 09-19-2009, 05:54 AM
 
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Having lived in and around Chicago as well as St. Petersburg, FL (and having visited countless others) - I can say that I don't find Dayton to be any more dangerous than any other urban city. And having lived in Downtown Dayton for almost 6 years, I've never experienced the supposed crime that keeps so many suburbanites scared to come downtown. My wife and I are comfortable enough to live here while raising a two year old daughter. And yes, we are fortunate to have the means to live anywhere in the region we want.

That said - yes, there are definitely bad parts of town - just like any other city. The statistics are more telling of how the population here is shrinking than how bad the crime is getting. But I don't doubt that there are many neighborhoods in Dayton that are not safe. The fact that the majority of violent crime happens between known acquaintances (drug deals, gangs, etc.) as opposed to random crime is probably of little consolation to those who are surrounded by that violence daily. But again - every urban city in America has these neighborhoods, and many are much worse.

The difference between Dayton and most other urban cities is that the wealthy folks have all moved out long ago - there is no "high society" that lives in the city-proper. Yes, there are upper-middle class people (mostly living in a few historic districts and downtown) but they are vastly outnumbered by those living in or just above the poverty level in other parts of the city. The statistics, accordingly, paint the picture of a low-income city. And as racially segregated as this city AND region are, we are also just as economically segregated.

The other side of this is the attitude of those living in the burbs. Dayton is hardly the only city in the country that has suburbs full of anti-city people (yes, even places like Chicago have this). But the anti-city attitude in the Dayton Region is especially troubling, as it also comes with a severe disconnection. Many of the same anti-city folks are the same people who rarely if ever step foot in the city and base their judgement on the "if it bleeds it leads" local news media. They see reporters nightly in front of the courthouse in downtown and lazily assume that the crime is actually happening downtown. They know little about the different sections and neighborhoods in the city and just assume that the entire city is the same. And many have simply given up on the city.
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Old 09-19-2009, 03:56 PM
 
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Dayton is not that bad.
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Old 09-19-2009, 04:06 PM
 
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Couldn't agree with you more, Billy from Dayton! (Actually, the REAL reason I'm afraid to come downtown is that I'm afraid that Natasha Williams from Channel 7 will run into my car...)
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