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Old 10-25-2009, 03:14 PM
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Default Issue 2 and 3

So I hear issue 2 actually puts a lot of bad restrictions on farmers that aren't really necessary to make OUR food healthier, but the food the animals eat healthier. Plus, alot of stats are apparently saying that its a job killer. I need more information and recources...Got any? Maybe some opinions, too.

Also, Issue 3 is really not good for Ohio. I'm serious. Not only is there a strong possibilty of crime rates increasing in certain areas, we don't even get to see where the "ecucation dollars" are actually going. plus, over 17,000 of the 34,000 jobs are six-month construction jobs. Another 8,000 would be given to people from out of state that would move here and then the 9,000 left over are only a promise for now. They could be cut within a few weeks after they hire people. That 34,000 number is really NOT that accurate. I think this is more about casino owners finally getting into Ohio just because the economy has weakened us. Why should we lower our moral standards because we had a year of tough times? If people did that during the Great Depression we would have been a pretty crappy society when it comes to morals. Wouldn't we?

Well....I know I'm just venting now so I'd really like to hear some more opinions. I'm still not 100% about Issue 3 but I pretty sure it's a "No."
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Old 10-25-2009, 03:56 PM
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I'll vote yes for gambling when they put a free market amendment on the ballot. I refuse to give the gambling monopoly in Ohio to just four cities -- why not Dayton? why not Marietta? why not Middletown or Hamilton?

If four gambling locations are good, why can't we just legalize gambling and allow the state to capture a 50% tax on every bet at hundreds of locations? Wouldn't that be better? Yes, it would be better for Ohio -- but worse for the casinos holding the monopoly.

Plus, the 33% tax is much lower than in most other states. Ohio could get at least 50% (I think 33% is one of the lowest rates in the country), so passing this amendment is a bad business decision.
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Old 10-25-2009, 05:26 PM
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I heard that Issue 2 was bad, but I thought it was because farmers got to regulate themselves and restrictions would get worse???

Personally, I see a LOT of farmers with "Yes on Issue 2" signs in their yards.
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Old 10-26-2009, 06:52 AM
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Full information on the statewide Issues on the ballot with pros/cons:

Issue 1 (Veterans) - http://www.lwvdayton.org/VtrServ/ISS...-pros-cons.pdf

Issue 2 (Livestock) - http://www.lwvdayton.org/VtrServ/ISS...-pros-cons.pdf

Issue 3 (Casinos) - http://www.lwvdayton.org/VtrServ/ISS...-pros-cons.pdf
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My take on the three issues:

Issue 1: I like the idea of the bonus (Yes, I'm eligible for it) but I'm not sure it makes sense in this economy. I know many states (including Ohio) gave bonuses to returning veterans from Viet Nam. Considering the times and the terms of the war, that probably made (somewhat) more sense than it does now. I'm voting "NO"

Issue 2: I'm for gambling but putting this issue in our constitution AND at the behest of one gaming business is too much like a narrow special interest taking advantage of us. Voting "NO"

Issue 3: Same issue with putting it in the state constituition here. And what's to stop the animal rights crowd from getting their OWN amendment?? Again, I worry about corporate farming running roughshod over family farmers on the taxpayer's dime... Again, voting "NO"

Issue 4: Yes, I support the MetroParks levy
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Old 10-28-2009, 06:54 PM
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1(Veterans): YES
2(Farms): NO
3(Casinos): NO
4(Parks): YES
40(Libraries): YES
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