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Old 03-09-2010, 11:34 PM
 
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I guess we are seeing topic drift. Since city-data is a place to recommendations for people moving to new places what can we say to wrap up? How about this, a more positive spin on what was discussed:

If you and your family are politically and socially conservative and are relocating to the Dayton region you will find western Greene County (say, Beavercreek, Bellbrook, Sugarcreek Township, Fairborn, Bath Township...essentially the area between Xenia and the Montgomery County line) a congenial environment. You will, more often than not, find like-minded neighbors, co-workers, and employers. And you will find at least two very good public school systems in Sugarcreek and Beavercreek.
That's dead on. Rural + sprawl + big military base + engineering research + state university + Ohio + mall = Beavercreek/Fairborn.

It's not bad if you don't mind driving a lot and like sprawl and restaurants in the middle of parking lots. Sugarcreek/Bellbrook is really quite beautiful when you're among the hills or streams.
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Old 04-03-2010, 02:50 AM
 
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Sitting here reading, thousands of miles from you, I find this line of chat interesting. Especially the Esrati quote that started this line. Having read Alinsky and Gramsci, Cloward-Piven and Lenin, and knowing that the far left has been given their marching orders by the various Soros groups to write letters of complaint about conservatives, sadly I now question the validity of everything. And crew chief- you don't have to keep your mouth shut if you are discussing the Constitution or mentioning the Debt Clock...these are valid regardless of what side of the fence you sit on. And yes. both sides have caused this mess we are in. Chavez is chuckling, I am sure.
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Old 04-25-2010, 06:20 AM
 
Location: Ohio/Sarasota
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I am an ultra liberal and live in Beavercreek. We tend to keep our views to ourselves. It's been hard not put a Gore/Kerry/Obama sign in our front yard. It seems like it is mandatory for residents to have a Bush/McCain sign. Talking politics has become something in which you tread lightly. We, as a country, used to have healthy debate on politics. Now - not so much. People seem to be so entrenched in their views no one discussed anymore. With the internet and cable it is possible to only listen to views which correspond with yours. Whether we agreed with it or not, the media used to be an institution that united us. Everyone watched Uncle Walt. Today, it seems when you express a differing view you get shut down. I've never had a conservative ask me about me beliefs. Never ask me why. They just call you a socialist, or worse, and walk away.
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Old 05-05-2010, 08:19 AM
 
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Interesting and rather depressing discussion. I can understand wanting to live near those with similar interests and views (I err in that direction as much as anyone else), but it does seem as though Americans increasingly polarize and will have nothing to do with those who have different views. I'm liberal but get along fine with sane conservatives--it's the rabid ones described in the blog that I want to stay clear of. But I think davery5872 has a point about how we all used to have some of the same news background, which helped unite us. While I love access to varied information sources, we now segregate our listening/reading. I'm disturbed by what's happened to journalism in recent years (in numerous ways). Oh well.
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Old 05-10-2010, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Ohio/Sarasota
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I'm disturbed by what's happened to journalism in recent years (in numerous ways). Oh well.

It's not just journalism. Unless of course if you consider blogs "journalism". There is so much information available and we can not possibly consume it all. We tend to search out info that reinforces our beliefs. Essentially we have censored ourselves. Honest debate has ceased to exist. Consequently, we have become so politically polarized we have stopped listening to other opinions. We live in participatory democracy and it only works when we have an exchange of ideas. It seems that today we just yell "talking points" or cliches at each other. That's not debating. This country works best when all opinions matter. When all opinions are considered. Not dismissed because it is spoken by a liberal or conservative. I believe we are Americans before we are Democrats or Republicans.
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