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Old 03-08-2010, 05:55 PM
 
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^^That hardly makes any sense though. You have one of the fastest growing areas in the Miami Valley(Beavercreek) and the government of that area fails to meet the demands of its people. Oh well.
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Old 03-09-2010, 10:38 PM
 
Location: Dayton, OH
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The area is growing but the people moving there have cars so public transit isn't important or seen as a need.

Expanding CATS would mean more money and maybe higher taxes, so there wouldnt be any political support for increasing funding a service used by so few. Yes, there is anecdotal evidence of an increasing demand but it is not necessarily enough to swing voters to supporting expanded service.
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Old 03-09-2010, 11:30 PM
 
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Dayton, on the whole, is very cliqueish. A lot of the potential leaders of the region are either idiots or heirs to some sort of Dayton legacy. Nothing regional gets done because the area was booming for so long and now that manufacturing has finally died in Dayton (thank God!) there might be a turnaround if someone other than GM moves into Moraine and the city AND county starts to get its bassackward act together.

The 'leaders' of Dayton have never had to make a hard decision because they've been living off the fat of the land (NCR comes to mind). One day we'll all look back and say "We didn't know how good we had it."

Here's to the future, cheers!
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Old 03-10-2010, 10:27 AM
 
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^ Excellent synopsis, Daytonmercury.

The thing holding back Dayton is inertia and conservatism. Dayton has enormous inertia for such a small city. The advantage normally held by something small in size is agility, quick response to change. Dayton does not have this quality and it's all about the people. And as D.M. said, the leaders here are utterly mediocre butt coverers.
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Old 03-10-2010, 10:45 AM
 
Location: St. Louis, MO
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I understand perfectly what you mean about IT in the area Ohioan58. I graduated from Wright State with a degree in computer science in 2007 and I tried to get a job at Reynolds & Reynolds and they want to start EVERYONE in the call center first where you are required to be there for 2 years and they only start you out at $30,000 a year.

I was looking for web or software development, not working in a call center. I ended up being offered the job, but I turned it down and while there were times I thought I made a mistake (when I was laid off from another job I took and was without work for 11 months), I'm now in St. Louis working as a Web Development Analyst and I'm making over $45,000. Heck with the shape the auto industry is in, Reynolds & Reynolds may have laid me off as well.
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Old 03-10-2010, 02:25 PM
 
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I think you're right Ohioan58 about inertia and conservatism. The conservatism is mostly out of fear and dominates the Democrats as much as the Republicans. We need someone with the financial wherewithal to wake the people up to the reality of the world in 2010. Youngstown might be a good model to copy even though Dayton is better off overall than Ytown.
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Old 03-11-2010, 03:36 PM
 
Location: miami county
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I moved to Dayton from Lubbock,Texas almost two years ago. Although I must say Dayton in my opinion is better for a younger (24) college grad than Lubbock, however there are alot of things I did not like about Dayton.

Heres a top 5 list:

1. Transit is horrible for the price- Bigger and more efficient transit systems like Baltimore have cheaper fares (only 1.60 per way and 3.25 for a day pass) and it seems the prices continue to rise every year.

2. It really is a dying city as of now-In my almost 2 years here I believe I've seen 2-3 major companies leave for other cities. I'm sure there maybe more but thats all I've seen. I really hope more businesses come to Dayton.

3. Jobs are hard to find-As it is worse in places like Detroit, I know Dayton used to be/still is a manufacturing city, but still the lack of jobs/high unemployment rate is definitely a negative.

4. Downtown- It's supposed to be the heart of the city. I find myself going to other places for things to do in the winter (Beavercreek mainly) I did like the fact they moved where the bus hub is at both greyhound and RTA but besides riverscape and dragons game or urban nights downtown life is pretty dull (I live downtown by the way) as I side thought it might've been nice had they built a "Greene" like mall downtown.

5. Lack of services-(above mentioned RTA and other services that the city of Dayton doesn't have) The RTA should really service all of the suburbs as well as the city. I notice Beavercreek which in my opinion is a major suburb of Dayton gets snubbed on that end. I know it's in Greene county...but still.

I can say some nice things about Dayton as well (Nice people[for the most part], the dragons games are nice, top notch universities, Good schools in the suburbs, lots of biking/running/walking trails, and the gas prices for the most part are pretty good compared to the rest of the country) I really wish the city the best because it does have great potential and talking to some of the older people here they have said Dayton is not the same Dayton from the late 80's early 90's.

As for myself I'm moving back to Maryland.
The burbs dont want the RTA, what do you think did in the salem mall, and is now doing in the dayton mall, the bus just trucks in hundreds of rif-raf, and troublemakers, who have no intention of spending any money, just hanging around causing trouble, then they boost a ride (steal your car) to get back to the hood. in the dayton mall food court you have to take turns eating, i watched my wifes purse while she ate, she watched it while i ate. Ever notice theres no bus to the fairfield mall, or the green,theres a reason for that, those developers know what will happen, and dont need the drama.
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Old 03-11-2010, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Dayton, OH
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This "issue" with public transit seems to be a Dayton suburban thing because other cities I've lived in have public transit in the suburbs and dont have problems.

I think the issue is that suburbanites here see more black faces & associate black=crime, so make the assumption that a place may be unsafe because there are blacks present. Public transit brings the coloreds to suburbia so they don't want it.

Also, I think if anyone is fearful or excessively wary while eating in the food court of Dayton Mall they are a fool. One should be prudent but not be nuts about it.

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Old 03-11-2010, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Downtown Dayton, Ohio
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tightline is a scaredy cat - BOOO! Afraid of the Dayton Mall? Geeze, talk about sheltered! Hey tightline, if you ever do wish to come downtown again for whatever reason, let me know - I'll be happy to let my two year old daughter escort you so all of the scary people don't hurt you...
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Old 03-11-2010, 07:28 PM
 
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^^

Amen..its kinda ignorant to say RTA=rif raf trouble makers or people who's only intent is to steal/rob.
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