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Unread 06-14-2012, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Conn.
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I understand that the homeowners suggested getting together to purchase the outdoor grill (which is not included in the clubhouse ammenities list) because the escrow money (left over from not having to shovel snow this past winter) was spent on the new pool table and refrigerator...both are worthwhile purchases. The homeowners who participate in the social activities volunteered to donate the money for the grill without hesitation. Those who choose not to join in on the fun at social events were not burdened with any additional costs. Sounds fair to me.
Pool table and a refrigerator sound like a good use of leftover snow money. I am in a condo in CT. The property manager gets bids for snow removal before that season starts. Last year (the year from hell snow-wise) she recommended a certain contractor because they had the lowest bid. Well, it snowed so much, they demanded an extra $5000 by the end of the winter. She gave it to them. This year, we had the same company, and virtually no snow. Did they give us any money back? Of course not, even though I know they don't pay their workers if there is no snow to plow or shovel. This same property manager has taken our place from about 20% rentals (the desired maximum percentage) to over 50% in just over 2 years. Every time a foreclosure or short sale comes up, she tells friends of hers, who buy the unit cheap and turn it right into a rental. One person owns 4 and one owns 5 rental units. Now banks won't write mortgages for our place, since there are too many rentals; only these investors who pay cash can buy. This is how a place can be run into the ground in a very short time. I realize this has nothing to do with a development in Delaware, but shows how careful a person has to be.

Personally whatever place I decide on in Delaware will be a big improvement for me. I can't wait!
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Unread 06-18-2012, 11:15 PM
 
Location: Milford
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Actually, the way I interpret our covenant, the 75% requirement is existing lots sold. I do agree that economic times dictate something more reasonable and not as lavish as the 10,000 sq. ft. Lodge now planned.

There's 2 things I would like to see. One, an escrow account where a % of the cost of a home sold is held and accounted for by some outside interest until the Lodge comes to fruition, and two a refund of monies for the difference of the proposed 10,000 sq. ft. Lodge and the downsized version that may come with a majority vote.

Until such time I only pay for what exists. A temp club, lawn care, and snow removal at $83.00 per month.

Prospects have to do their due diligence, so as to not get sucked into something that's only a dream.

55erin: Votes are dictated by deed to the lot...If there are 25 settled homes of 440 lots, J.S has 415 votes. They will be in control for now and most likely the future unless another builder works out a deal for lesser land costs and gets an agreement with the bank. J.S could be seeking other builders to split the cost of the amendities. Might not be a bad idea to bring in another big name to Roesville. Roesville needs something to get it going....however, not too many builders are attractive to Roesville because of the location for Active Adult Buyers. What do you think if Roesville becomes a non 55+ community? This change can still be made and you might get your "Lodge" that is represented.
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Unread 06-19-2012, 06:10 AM
 
Location: Felton, DE
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55erin: Might not be a bad idea to bring in another big name to Roesville. Roesville needs something to get it going....however, not too many builders are attractive to Roesville because of the location for Active Adult Buyers. What do you think if Roesville becomes a non 55+ community? This change can still be made and you might get your "Lodge" that is represented.
Are you seriously considering buying a home at Roesville? If not, why post on this forum?
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Unread 06-19-2012, 06:46 AM
 
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55erin: Votes are dictated by deed to the lot...If there are 25 settled homes of 440 lots, J.S has 415 votes. They will be in control for now and most likely the future unless another builder works out a deal for lesser land costs and gets an agreement with the bank. J.S could be seeking other builders to split the cost of the amendities. Might not be a bad idea to bring in another big name to Roesville. Roesville needs something to get it going....however, not too many builders are attractive to Roesville because of the location for Active Adult Buyers. What do you think if Roesville becomes a non 55+ community? This change can still be made and you might get your "Lodge" that is represented.
Again, the covenant states language around A, B, and C votes, and the way I interpret that language, their must be a 75% majority vote by current households to change the size of the Lodge. And when asked in an HOA meeting if a 75% majority vote was required of existing households, the response was yes.

The current Lodge plans of 10,000 sq. ft. are on file with Kent County. If and when that changes, I'll pursue a refund of monies. Built into the cost of the current pricing structure for Roesville homes sold is the price of a 10,000 sq. ft. Lodge. So as the Lodge size is reduced J.S. saves money. And I want those savings passed back to me, if and when the size is reduced.
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Unread 06-19-2012, 07:27 AM
 
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55erin: Votes are dictated by deed to the lot...If there are 25 settled homes of 440 lots, J.S has 415 votes. They will be in control for now and most likely the future unless another builder works out a deal for lesser land costs and gets an agreement with the bank. J.S could be seeking other builders to split the cost of the amendities. Might not be a bad idea to bring in another big name to Roesville. Roesville needs something to get it going....however, not too many builders are attractive to Roesville because of the location for Active Adult Buyers. What do you think if Roesville becomes a non 55+ community? This change can still be made and you might get your "Lodge" that is represented.
Following is a sentence in a paragraph of the Declaration of Covenats that speks to Amendments.

"The Developer shall not be permitted to cast any votes held by him for unsold Lot, Parcel, Unit or interests for the purpose of amending the Master Plan, By-Laws or other Governing Documents for the purpose of changing the permitted use of a Lot, Parcel, Unit or interest, or for the purpose of reducing the Common Area."

Not being a lawyer, I interpret that as only existing households have a vote.
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Unread 06-20-2012, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Felton, DE
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Following is a sentence in a paragraph of the Declaration of Covenats that speks to Amendments.

"The Developer shall not be permitted to cast any votes held by him for unsold Lot, Parcel, Unit or interests for the purpose of amending the Master Plan, By-Laws or other Governing Documents for the purpose of changing the permitted use of a Lot, Parcel, Unit or interest, or for the purpose of reducing the Common Area."

Not being a lawyer, I interpret that as only existing households have a vote.
Concur.
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Unread 06-28-2012, 11:18 PM
 
Location: Milford
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Again, the covenant states language around A, B, and C votes, and the way I interpret that language, their must be a 75% majority vote by current households to change the size of the Lodge. And when asked in an HOA meeting if a 75% majority vote was required of existing households, the response was yes.

The current Lodge plans of 10,000 sq. ft. are on file with Kent County. If and when that changes, I'll pursue a refund of monies. Built into the cost of the current pricing structure for Roesville homes sold is the price of a 10,000 sq. ft. Lodge. So as the Lodge size is reduced J.S. saves money. And I want those savings passed back to me, if and when the size is reduced.
Good Luck 55erin,

I hear you loud and clear. Your Lodge is not going to happen and unfortantely there is nothing that you can do. You should be thankful that J.S is committed to the community, "thus far" and willing to work to find a compromise to the economic conditions. FYI, there are no savings or refunds. You should be thankful that your HOA is subsidized.
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Unread 06-28-2012, 11:27 PM
 
Location: Milford
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Are you seriously considering buying a home at Roesville? If not, why post on this forum?
Goin2 - I post because of your inaccurate details. I hate to tell you but the only way J.S can survive in Roesville is if they get another builder on board and go non 55+.
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Unread 06-29-2012, 12:25 AM
 
Location: Milford
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Are you seriously considering buying a home at Roesville? If not, why post on this forum?

Goin2 - If only you knew....what was going on at Roesville.

God Bless..
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Unread 06-29-2012, 06:34 AM
 
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Goin2 - If only you knew....what was going on at Roesville.

God Bless..
hum......care to share. details please and in english.
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