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Old 03-27-2009, 04:16 PM
 
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Is that how the top 20 list was done ??? If so, then I agree that it is slanted....

I'm asking?? Not Questioning...
The crime reports come from UCR, the Uniform Crime Reporting program administered by the FBI. What PortCity describes is true. What makes it even more skewed is that sometimes, instead of using actual data in some areas, they use sampling data.

Simple explanation of sampling data: Ask 1000 people a yes/no question. 600 people say yes and 400 people say no. They assume from the random sample of people that if they asked 1,000,000 people, 60% would say yes and 40% would say no.

Using sampling data instead of actual statistics further skews data. Here is more information about the UCR:

Federal Bureau of Investigation - Uniform Crime Reports
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Old 03-27-2009, 04:16 PM
 
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01va571:

By no means I was referring to you. In fact I find your original post agreeable ... On the contrary, my post was a comment or wonderment about the thread beginning or how one is allowed to start such a provocative thread with neither first hand experience nor a reliable and accurate website sighting and more importantly even correctly reading the data therein.......

Sorry for inadvertatntly making you feel that I was addressing your comment ....
I'm think the comment was directed at me.....

and again... I'm not in love with Jersey. I want to move to Delaware and

I'm doing my research... this thread was not meant to thrash or distort

or taint a place... its for open truthful discussion about a concern that

is on the minds of all potential buyers..... the list gets published every

year and if its not true then it should be discussed openly and with facts

folks today are smart and want to be informed....

no need to worry the idea that negatives will somehow chase away

people... discussing the negatives and disproving them will only

reinforce the positives......
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Old 03-28-2009, 09:50 AM
 
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Hi FrankB:

While most people will agree with the last sentence of your post above, I think the heading is appropriately moderated to reflect your sentiment and that of others. Thanks to Toobusytoday!

We welcome you to explore, learn about and experience Delaware before you decide to find place other than NJ to move to.

Under the banner of "statistics" a lot of information is floated (even well-meaning) but it is left to the reader of the information to put it in perspecttive and analyze and determine if it makes sense. and that is what being smart is all about ....

Statistics is generated for different purposes; by itself is not necessarily credible but it is left upto the reader to interprete (see if it is appropriate). Who would in their right mind think that NH, VT and Maine would be # 1,2, and 3 on the crime list? But there it is, in black and white, in the link provided by Toobusytoday. .....
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Old 03-28-2009, 03:19 PM
 
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I find this quite funny, Delaware dangerous?

I mean I have been born and raised in this state, and I am currently 23 yrs of age. I have never in a time, in my childhood or my adult life felt I was in any immediate danger, and that stretches from being in Middletown all the way to Riverside Projects.

To the person looking to move here from South Jersey, Delaware is completely safe. Even the worse areas, such as Northside DE, Hilltop, Riverside Projects aren't really anything to be scared of walking through at any time. Delaware isn't a place of random crimes, which is what I would like to see a statistic of. I would love to see how many of these assault crimes/murders were committed randomly by people not known by the victim. I bet the #'s are very very low, also another thing about Delaware is that their is usually no business to be done in the areas that are terrible. Is their any real reason to go into, the bad parts of Wilmington or subdivisions of New Castle & Newark unless you are visiting someone you know there or buying drugs. Yes we have crime in Delaware just like anywhere else, but i'm telling you barely any of that **** is random, most crimes are amongst people of the same kind.

Now property crimes, such as breakins vandalism are known but than again this can happen anywhere. As long as you do your research, and check out the schools your family will be fine.

I really don't understand how some of you make Delaware out to be dangerous, it really isn't.
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Old 03-29-2009, 06:40 AM
 
Location: Greenville, Delaware
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There are, in fact, random crimes in DE -- pretty much as in other places. One only has to read the paper in order to know that. Muggings and purse snatchings have occurred all around the greater Wilmington/Northern New Castle County area, although the actual incidence isn't that high. People have also got caught in the crossfire of gang-related shootings in the "bad" parts of the City of Wilmington and have been killed merely as a result of being in the wrong place at the moment. Delaware is neither crime-free and entirely safe on the one hand, nor a crime-ridden and grossly dangerous place on the other.
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Old 03-29-2009, 06:59 AM
 
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I have to share.........coming from Philadelphia, the crime in the dover area is nothing.
There is even a big difference in Delmarva news stations compared to the philly station.
The philly stations are all about crime.
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Old 03-29-2009, 09:40 AM
 
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Philly is a good example of what I was trying to find out.... in Philly these 3 blocks are good but that next block watch out..... go down this road everything is ok... but make that left and you are on your own...... call swat.

Jersey has it in areas but they are spread apart......i.e.

Camden, Atco, Newark NJ, Paterson, Vineland.

of course Jersey is much bigger than DE....


like I said in the beginning, I was not knocking the state.... in fact we are looking to see if we can

relocate.... property crime is everywhere... that's true... some places worse than others.

but will stay tuned..... as we do our research .

I hope that doctorjef, godmc, and charley are right in that it is relatively safe throughout....
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Old 03-29-2009, 09:56 AM
 
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Philly is a good example of what I was trying to find out.... in Philly these 3 blocks are good but that next block watch out..... go down this road everything is ok... but make that left and you are on your own...... call swat.

Jersey has it in areas but they are spread apart......i.e.

Camden, Atco, Newark NJ, Paterson, Vineland.

of course Jersey is much bigger than DE....


like I said in the beginning, I was not knocking the state.... in fact we are looking to see if we can

relocate.... property crime is everywhere... that's true... some places worse than others.

but will stay tuned..... as we do our research .

I hope that doctorjef, godmc, and charley are right in that it is relatively safe throughout....
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Again I have to share. Being a native of Philly all my life, I have seen a big big difference in the past 40 years or so.
There was a time when the greater northeast was pretty safe but not anymore.
I don't think there is any place in the city you can go to be free of crime. So glad we got out.

I am not afraid here in DE. Not at all.
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Old 03-29-2009, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Southern New England
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Seems a lot of people are getting these rankings from---insurance sites, disaster sites? You got to go straight to the source--www.fbi.gov "Uniform Crime Reports".
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Old 03-29-2009, 10:04 AM
 
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Good point Terrasurf.......this is the same site charley posted.

Good to see people posting in the DE forum again.
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