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Old 05-26-2011, 01:40 AM
 
Location: Colorado
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I choose to disagree. That's why cops have non-lethal weapons such as pepper spray and tazer guns. He shouldn't have killed it. That should've been a very last resort. Especially firing a gun with people around. That right there is scary enough.
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Old 05-26-2011, 08:30 AM
 
Location: western Centennial, CO
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I choose to disagree. That's why cops have non-lethal weapons such as pepper spray and tazer guns. He shouldn't have killed it. That should've been a very last resort. Especially firing a gun with people around. That right there is scary enough.
The first question is whether he had a tazer - not all officers have tasers. Also with dogs while the non-lethal weapons can temporarily stop the charge once the charge or spray has dissipated the dog could continue the attack. There are many question marks and we are not in a position to judge the use of a taser versus a gun.

It wasn't a random shot - it was a targeted shot. And now you cannot fire a shot with people around? Even if they were next door? Even if you're being attacked?

There is no question there is abuse by police officers. And it is made worse by 'the blue wall of silence'. There are many, many cases where wrongdoing covered for even by officers that would never commit the same wrongdoing. Read any number of police biographies and they will say in writing how they would frame suspects they 'knew' where guilty, steal evidence, beat suspects, etc. and that was just part of how they did business as though there was nothing wrong with it. There is definitely a problem.

However another big problem is the media which is very selective in their reporting. They publish 'witness' accounts with the most imflammatory comments put in and don't include the entire statement. They have lines such as 'officer kills family pet' to draw on emotion. At least they posted the link to the official report.
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Old 05-26-2011, 02:31 PM
 
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1. The dog was in it's own yard and witnesses said the dog was not showing any signs of aggression.
Um, actually you are wrong on that point too. The dog was shot on the driveway at 445 Conrad Dr. The dog owner lives at 437 Conrad Dr. You can read it in the DAs report. There are also several TV news reports online that clearlly show the location as being the neighbors driveway.

http://www.erieco.gov/DocumentView.aspx?DID=839

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2. That entire sentence just described all of my neighbors dogs on our block. I don't think that justifies killing it.
Really? All of the dogs on your block are unlicensed, running loose and out of control of the owners? That sound like a very dangerous situation. You should really contact your local animal control, before someone gets hurt.
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Old 05-26-2011, 03:02 PM
 
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I choose to disagree. That's why cops have non-lethal weapons such as pepper spray and tazer guns. He shouldn't have killed it. That should've been a very last resort. Especially firing a gun with people around. That right there is scary enough.
How do you know it was not a last resort? Maybe he didn't have pepper spray or a taser on him.

Anyways, shouldn't the real blame be put on the irresponsible dog owner, who had a dog that she could not control, running loose off-leash? And a Darwin Award for her, for calling the cops for help, and then not even securing her dogs before they arrived.
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Old 05-27-2011, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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First of all, there was no attack. And I would still have a serious problem with some trigger happy cop shooting his gun off in city limits around my family, and that is my opinion. But this didn't happen to me, thankfully. My dogs are always secured. Yes, my neighbors are odd for letting their dogs run amuk here. I never understood that one. Some people shouldn't breed and others shouldn't be pet owners either. But that's a whole other thread.
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Old 05-27-2011, 10:29 PM
 
Location: Denver
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I guess that's how it is in a city that is practically surrounded by nothingness in every direction. Just wilderness and farmland. So what happens? They can't handle the slightest bit of city life. Every little thing is a cause for alarm.

I was pulled once for not having a front license plate. Now I know damn well that mother ****er knew Florida does not issue front tags. I see a Florida car in Denver every god damned day.
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Old 05-29-2011, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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I guess that's how it is in a city that is practically surrounded by nothingness in every direction. Just wilderness and farmland. So what happens? They can't handle the slightest bit of city life. Every little thing is a cause for alarm.

I was pulled once for not having a front license plate. Now I know damn well that mother ****er knew Florida does not issue front tags. I see a Florida car in Denver every god damned day.
LOL. I was surprised when a Californian once told me you will get pulled over for not having license on both front and rear bumper there. In Georgia you're only issued rear license plates and people often use the front bumper to put fake license plates from exotic places just for decoration.

Anyway; I'm pretty sure what my cousins opinion would be on this subject. She once had her arm twisted and injured by a security cop at the bus station in downtown Denver after an argument she had with him about something. She sued. I'm not sure how that turned out.
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Old 05-01-2012, 09:26 PM
 
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Why is police brutality or crimes being commited by the police, making headlines so much these days here in Colorado? I see lots of threads about how great Denver is to live in, but people need to be aware of our dark side too. And I know crimes committed by the police is not unique to only Colorado. But this is OUR state. It's embarrasing and I would love to go a full month without hearing about a cop committing a crime. Heck, at this rate, give me a whole day!

When I was growing up, we were taught that the police could be trusted with our lives. They are there to help and protect us when we can't protect ourselves. I know they are just human, but they are held to a higher standard than most because we rely on them so much to do the right thing. I always thought of them as super heros without the capes. People who rely on them the most to be that super hero are showing up in headlines as victims of the police. The elderly, the women and children, and in some cases even animals.

Here's just a small example of police related incidents that made recent headlines:

They beat people within an inch of their lives [URL="http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/27760608/detail.html"]http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/27760608/detail.html[/URL] On this link, there are at least 16 other links to related stories of recent police brutality.

They file false reports/caught lying [URL="http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/27516955/detail.html"]http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/27516955/detail.html[/URL] Police brutality on women and then lying about it. They were fired for lying, not the brutality caught on tape.

They kill people and get away with it [URL="http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/27827427/detail.html"]http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/27827427/detail.html[/URL] Their actions caused this man to die. This was also caught on tape.

They beat up kids [URL="http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/27854169/detail.html"]http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/27854169/detail.html[/URL] The same officer keeps getting in trouble for punching kids in the face while they are already handcuffed and sitting in his cruiser.

Involved with child porn [URL="http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/27862082/detail.html"]http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/27862082/detail.html[/URL] He was not only caught with child porn, he also has access to children in the community.

Drove drunk while on duty [URL="http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/27840007/detail.html"]http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/27840007/detail.html[/URL] This guy was fired, but he's trying to get his job back.

Illegal street racing with kids [URL="http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/27890776/detail.html"]http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/27890776/detail.html[/URL] WTH?

They kill family pets for no reason at all [URL="http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/27863147/detail.html"]http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/27863147/detail.html[/URL] I'm so mad about this one, I'm beyond words for it.

Thoughts anyone? Do you have your own stories about running into a bad CO cop?
Boy do I ever have a story about a bad cop. I recently had a business associate receive a ticket from and Anthony Laska from the Greenwood Village police. Apparently, this Laska sited him as a possible "terror" threat, but called his mother up and threatend her. I guess somehow this Laska officer get's rewarded for this type of misconduct by being hired at the dept. of defense in Alaska. I guess bad cops are now rewarded for being bad... Here's the link to the article:
[url]http://www.theconspiracyzone.podcastpeople.com/posts/39285[/url]

Also, this article talks about police now picking up and arresting people for owing minor debts! Un-believablle!!!!

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Old 07-10-2012, 11:01 AM
 
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hello all in denver colorado i am mark and i do copwatch with the national association of independent copwatch and i am looking for any one that have delt with officer donald reed or officer brent wood this is so inportent that i talk to you if you delt with the two officers i said here i need it before july 17th im working on a case and need this please thanks
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Old 07-10-2012, 11:47 AM
 
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hello all in denver colorado i am mark and i do copwatch with the national association of independent copwatch and i am looking for any one that have delt with officer donald reed or officer brent wood this is so inportent that i talk to you if you delt with the two officers i said here i need it before july 17th im working on a case and need this please thanks
You are working on a case? It would help if you bothered to learn the English language; you can then better communicate and present yourself with having intelligence, so as to be taken seriously. Your post shows your lack of education.

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