Denver more dangerous than New York, San Francisco (low crime, gated communities)

[McGowdog]

That post was so long ago that the drinking laws/alcohol sales laws have literally changed in Colorado since then.

I think that a person should take into account that crime and alcoholism is big business for some and a source of employment, so bottoms up! Tell it to the Judge! Drink one on me! See ya in the funny papers.

If you want to drink, that's your biz. If you want to quit and can't, DM me. Day after tomorrow, I'll be 5 years old!

[DenverAztec]

Fatastic news McGowdog! Congratulations!

[ramanboy33]

Originally Posted by Mr. Answers

Denver is a much more dangerous place to live than 10 years ago. Hickenlooper + illegal immigration + population growth = crime.

That said, I still feel perfectly safe walking around in the vast majority of the metro area. But the town certainly ain't what it used to be....

Actually, crime has gone DOWN under Hickenlooper's leadership.
Idiot.

[CMartel2]

Originally Posted by ramanboy33

Actually, crime has gone DOWN under Hickenlooper's leadership.
Idiot.

Not really. It spiked his first two years in office. In his third year, it went down to about the level where he entered office. It did decrease in 2007, but I'm willing to bet money that crime stats for 2008 will be worse than in 2007.

[Katiana]

Originally Posted by McGowdog

That post was so long ago that the drinking laws/alcohol sales laws have literally changed in Colorado since then.

I think that a person should take into account that crime and alcoholism is big business for some and a source of employment, so bottoms up! Tell it to the Judge! Drink one on me! See ya in the funny papers.

If you want to drink, that's your biz. If you want to quit and can't, DM me. Day after tomorrow, I'll be 5 years old!

I can't rep you right now, but congrats!

Live Content, I agree with most of what you said, as well. If people can't have fun w/o drinking themselves silly, they have a problem!

[vegaspilgrim]

Originally Posted by Central Illinois 1

Metro area crime stats definitely make more sense due to a number of factors that people have talked about on this forum. But even these statistics are deceiving in that there is more within-area variation in crime than there is between areas. For instance if we ask the question of which city/area is safer, Milwaukee or Miami, it all depends on which part of Milwaukee or Miami you are in. There are very safe and very dangerous areas within both metro areas. In addition, these statistics do not take into account the overall number of people who might be in these areas (for whatever reason) on an annual basis. Instead they are based on per capita numbers (crime divided by city/area population). For example, the Miami area has many more tourists than does Milwaukee and when weather is factored into this, Miami has many, many more people on the streets and beaches than Milwaukee. Thus, many more people are exposed to being potential victims of crimes. The same thing can be said for areas like Las Vegas, New Orleans, and San Francisco. On top of all of this, crime reporting rates may vary markedly between cities. So if I am a victim of a petty larceny in a city like New York, I may not bother to report the crime. However, if I am in a smaller city, like perhaps Memphis or Oklahoma City, I may very well report the crime. Finally, whether I report the crime may depend on where I am at within a metro area. If I am robbed of $50 or punched in the face in, say, a rough area of St. Louis, I may just "get out of Dodge" and chalk it up as a loss. However, if the same thing happens to me in Clayton, MO (an affluent suburb of St. Louis) I would almost certainly report the crime to authorities. All of these factors skew crime statistics for both cities and metropolitan areas.

There's plenty of posts to respond to that aren't over a year old. Look at all the trouble this has mucked up now! Sheesh!

[Central Illinois 1]

Originally Posted by vegaspilgrim

There's plenty of posts to respond to that aren't over a year old. Look at all the trouble this has mucked up now! Sheesh!

Nothing like fueling old flames...

[McGowdog]

Originally Posted by MorningGlory

I dont think you are going to change the fact that people drink. They have been doing it since they lived in caves. It is legal, after all. Personally I think the biggest problem is advertisers using 18-year-old-breast-implanted-bimbos to sell their product.

Well now that the cat's out of the bag; The biggest problem isn't that the advertisers use 18-year-old-breast-implanted-bimbos to sell their product, but because it works so well.

[FunkyMonk]

Almost every city in the US is getting more crowded, more dangerous, and common decency is disapearing.

This isn't a Denver thing, this is a trend across the entire country. Most people agree that American society is changing and getting more rough.

If you want to avoid these things. Stay away from major metro areas.....

[MantaRay]

Actually American has become predominantly major metro areas. I read somewhere that 80% of Americans live in metro areas and only 20% are rural, and those were numbers from years ago. The trend had been and continues to be more population growth around urban centers.