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Old 12-02-2007, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Denver,Co
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Yeah unfortunately many cities who once had their own individual charm and culture have become swamped by corporate chains which drive away any of the small mom and pop and local hot spots. Such a shame that you can take any area around any mall in the country and paste it into any town and it will fit right in. There is really no variety any more
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Old 12-02-2007, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Menver, CO
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Ditto I grew up here, I still think its cold. I have those hands and feet that are blue a lot of the time, even when I was a kid, in the summer. But there are so many things good about Colorado and Denver, I still feel its better than gloom. Nothing is worse than gloom.
I don't mind the gloom that much and would rather have it gloomy than below 40 degrees.

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How long have you been here? Those averages are next to meaningless in this climate. There are lots of days in the 50s and even 60s all winter, including Dec. and Jan.
I've been here quite a while and the averages are not meaningless.

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Ditto, where do you live, Monument? Larkspur? Maybe Castle Rock? Those "averages" are 3-4 degrees colder than any numbers I've seen for Denver.
Castle Rock.
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Old 12-02-2007, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Carefree Arizona
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Dear Ditto:

There is a simple reason as to why people from the Pacific Northwest move to Denver and Phoenix:

Local Text Forecast for
Portland, OR

Weather for your life

Dec 2 Tonight
Cloudy and windy with periods of rain. Low 43F. Winds S at 25 to 35 mph. 1 to 2 inches of rain expected.
Dec 3 Tomorrow
Cloudy and windy with periods of rain. High 53F. Winds S at 20 to 30 mph. 1 to 2 inches of rain expected.
Dec 3 Tomorrow night
Windy. A steady rain in the evening, with showers continuing late. Low 51F. Winds SSW at 20 to 30 mph. Rainfall near a half an inch.
Dec 4 Tuesday
Showers. Highs in the low 50s and lows in the low 40s.
Dec 5 Wednesday
Occasional showers possible. Highs in the mid 40s and lows in the mid 30s.


This also explains why you don't see a mass exodus of people from Denver and Phoenix moving to Portland.
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Old 12-02-2007, 08:10 PM
 
Location: Menver, CO
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Dear Ditto:

There is a simple reason as to why people from the Pacific Northwest move to Denver and Phoenix:

Local Text Forecast for
Portland, OR

Weather for your life

Dec 2 Tonight
Cloudy and windy with periods of rain. Low 43F. Winds S at 25 to 35 mph. 1 to 2 inches of rain expected.
Dec 3 Tomorrow
Cloudy and windy with periods of rain. High 53F. Winds S at 20 to 30 mph. 1 to 2 inches of rain expected.
Dec 3 Tomorrow night
Windy. A steady rain in the evening, with showers continuing late. Low 51F. Winds SSW at 20 to 30 mph. Rainfall near a half an inch.
Dec 4 Tuesday
Showers. Highs in the low 50s and lows in the low 40s.
Dec 5 Wednesday
Occasional showers possible. Highs in the mid 40s and lows in the mid 30s.


This also explains why you don't see a mass exodus of people from Denver and Phoenix moving to Portland.
Ah yes, I love the rain! Makes everything green and beautiful. And a little bit of humidity over the extreme dry weather! Some pretty nice temps there -- nothing below 30 degrees! Nice.
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Old 12-02-2007, 10:32 PM
 
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I've been to Woodland Park. That's getting up into the hills/mountains west of Colorado Springs. That is a higher elevation than Denver and a different and much colder climate. Arrrgh! The mountains of Colorado are cold, often very, very very cold. But that is not the same weather as Denver experiences, in fact, not even close ! Aiiiigh !
Right. But I grew up in Lakewood, spent years living in Denver, and my house here is for sale. I was cold in Lakewood and Denver. I am cold here too. The only place I am warm is Cancun.
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Old 12-02-2007, 10:42 PM
 
Location: Westminster, CO
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Ah yes, I love the rain! Makes everything green and beautiful. And a little bit of humidity over the extreme dry weather! Some pretty nice temps there -- nothing below 30 degrees! Nice.
If you hate Colorado so much why do you live here? Why don't you go back to OC, which you seem to prefer? Or move to Portland? It seems that all you do on these forums is whine and moan about how you hate it here.
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Old 12-03-2007, 09:43 PM
 
Location: Menver, CO
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If you hate Colorado so much why do you live here? Why don't you go back to OC, which you seem to prefer? Or move to Portland? It seems that all you do on these forums is whine and moan about how you hate it here.
I see you've been reading my posts - thank you.

There are good and bad things about Colorado just like everywhere else, and I've simply pointed out some of my dislikes. Many other people on this forum have done the same thing. If I did move to another location, I could still come in here and make negative remarks about Colorado, which wouldn't be any different than ex-californians living in CO who continue to bash CA in the respective forum.
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Old 12-03-2007, 10:30 PM
 
Location: Westminster, CO
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I see you've been reading my posts - thank you.

There are good and bad things about Colorado just like everywhere else, and I've simply pointed out some of my dislikes. Many other people on this forum have done the same thing. If I did move to another location, I could still come in here and make negative remarks about Colorado, which wouldn't be any different than ex-californians living in CO who continue to bash CA in the respective forum.
Well, all I've seen from you are negative remarks about CO, and almost all positive about OC. It paints a pretty polarized image of your perspective, if you ask me. So, I was just curious why you live here... I know it doesn't matter where you live and you could still bash CO in this forum all you wanted.. but giving your answer to my question might be interesting to hear nonetheless.
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Old 12-04-2007, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Menver, CO
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oberon

I'm guessing you haven't spent much time on other Colorado/Denver forums, because my comments pale in comparison to most others. If you primarily read City Data CO forums, you'll find mostly positive comments. I assume this is because many people are looking to move here or haven't been in CO very long, thus less complaints.

Check out the Denver Post forums for more opinions about Colorado:
Forums :: Denver Post Neighbors
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Old 12-04-2007, 08:23 PM
 
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This is such a strange thread about comparing these two cities, Portland and Denver. They are two different cities, two different areas, two different climates.

I do find it interesting that the first project that people do when they get a house in Denver is give it a big green lawn. So, are they not trying to emulate the very green of cities like Portland?? These people water and water until it floods out into the streets

Most people must believe that green is better than brown. In green states, like Oregon when they bulldoze the land, they plant green lawns to maintain green. In brown states, like Colorado, when they bulldoze the land, they plant green lawns to add green.

The wise man in Colorado will accept the brown, love the brown and be home with the brown, instead of creating an artificial landscape that is wasteful of water and not maintainable.

I am proud to be brown.

Livecontent
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