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Old 12-09-2007, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Almost in Denver
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I have several questions. We are considering relocating to the Parker area.
  1. State income tax--what percentage of your income is this?
  2. Average utility bills--Say, avg June and Dec bills for gas and electric? (assume 3000-4000 sq ft)
  3. Average water bill?
  4. Best high speed internet provider?
  5. Best cell phone provider?
  6. Sales tax?
  7. Other municipal fees I may be forgetting--Are water/sewer/trash collection billed together?
  8. Political climate?
  9. Driving conditions/road clearing when snow or ice? If we live in Parker, will inclement weather greatly increase our work commute?
  10. Douglas County school district?
  11. Vehicle registration fees? Any other associated fees?
  12. How is the cost of home insurance in CO?
  13. How about the cost of auto insurance?
  14. How about the cost of groceries/essentials as compared to Texas costs? (for those of you transplanted from here) My most recent trip to the store I paid $4.29 for a gallon of milk.
I certainly don't expect one person to take on all of these questions. But if you can answer one or two, I would really appreciate your response.

Thanks a billion.
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Old 12-09-2007, 05:53 PM
 
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Most / all of these have been answered in existing threads. To find these, just use the Search Tool with a keyword(s) from each question. There is a lot of info in these older threads and it will keep us from keying in answers to the usual set of questions that people have.
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Old 12-10-2007, 01:05 AM
 
Location: Almost in Denver
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Unhappy Sorry,

Will do that. Sorry. I should have thought of that first, but my husband has asked me so many questions that I haven't had time to research yet. Thanks!
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Old 12-10-2007, 10:46 AM
 
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I have several questions. We are considering relocating to the Parker area.
  1. State income tax--what percentage of your income is this?
  2. Average utility bills--Say, avg June and Dec bills for gas and electric? (assume 3000-4000 sq ft)
  3. Average water bill?
  4. Best high speed internet provider?
  5. Best cell phone provider?
  6. Sales tax?
  7. Other municipal fees I may be forgetting--Are water/sewer/trash collection billed together?
  8. Political climate?
  9. Driving conditions/road clearing when snow or ice? If we live in Parker, will inclement weather greatly increase our work commute?
  10. Douglas County school district?
  11. Vehicle registration fees? Any other associated fees?
  12. How is the cost of home insurance in CO?
  13. How about the cost of auto insurance?
  14. How about the cost of groceries/essentials as compared to Texas costs? (for those of you transplanted from here) My most recent trip to the store I paid $4.29 for a gallon of milk.
I certainly don't expect one person to take on all of these questions. But if you can answer one or two, I would really appreciate your response.

Thanks a billion.
A pretty good source for information is ( Moderator cut: link). If you go to the "Compare" tab, you can enter your present locale and prospective one and get a pretty good comparison on a lot of stuff. Their data isn't perfect, but it's probably as good as you will find on the web.

Some quick answers from my perspective on things of which I have personal knowledge:
[*]State income tax--what percentage of your income is this? 4.63% of taxable Colorado income
[*]Best cell phone provider? Probably the best statewide is either Verizon or Alltell. In the metro areas, most any carrier works. Out in the boonies, these two are probably the best.
[*]Sales tax? Read 'em and weep here: http://www.revenue.state.co.us/PDF/drp1002.pdf . The combined state and local sales taxes are usually 6-8% or more.
[*]Other municipal fees I may be forgetting--Are water/sewer/trash collection billed together? Location dependent
[*]Political climate? Depends on locale. Colorado historically Republican overall, but leaning more Democratic the last few years. Traditionally split the Governorship and Legislature between Democrat and Republican. Now the Governorship and both Legislative Houses under Democratic control.
[*]Driving conditions/road clearing when snow or ice? If we live in Parker, will inclement weather greatly increase our work commute? Yes. Commuting snarls in metro Denver during inclement winter weather--guaranteed.
[*]Vehicle registration fees? Any other associated fees? See my other posts on this.
[*]How is the cost of home insurance in CO? Generally higher than the norm, particularly in areas of the state subject to hailstorms and damage--this includes the entire Front Range.
[*]How about the cost of auto insurance? Higher than average--again, partly because of much of the state's propensity for hail damage, and partly because of accident/loss rates on the Front Range.
[*]How about the cost of groceries/essentials as compared to Texas costs? Higher than US average in most places.

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Old 12-10-2007, 11:28 PM
 
Location: Almost in Denver
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Default Thank you!

Jazzlover,
Thank you for your very thorough reply. I read the sales tax link, well, OK, I skimmed it. We are accustomed to 8.25% (but no state sales tax). So, it will seem better--until I remember the state sales tax.
I'll be interested to compare the insurance rates. We have godawful thunderstorms, hail, and tornados--i.e. the town of Jarrell (25 miles from here) blew away twice in 12 years. And they say lightning doesn't strike twice. Maybe not, but apparently tornados do. My son's apartment was missed by a few blocks last year in Waco.

Thanks again.
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Old 12-11-2007, 06:46 AM
 
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Flying buffalos;

We're in the process of relocating from TX (Hill Country) to CO (Loveland) and we're pleased with the change in costs.

Our property tax is taking a BIG DROP, from almost $5K (I'm still waiting for my $2K check from governor big hair), in TX to $1800 in CO. Oh, and the CO house is bigger, newer, nicer, much better built, they have building codes in CO! Also a bit more $.

Our local sales tax here is 8.25 and I think Loveland is only 6.??% (probably higher in the Centerra shopping center)

Our homeowner's insurance (remember, it's NOT REGULATED in TX) is dropping from about $1,000 (3% deductible) to LESS THAN $300 ($1,000 deductible)

I figure we won't be running our A/C constantly from April through October.

I can't find my notes on car insurance but IIRC it was about the same, or even a bit less!

I think you'll find the grocery costs to be pretty similar.

Gasoline has been the same on my last 3 trips.

Vehicle registration fees are a bit more, but it seems that CO actually takes that money and does some work on its roads (a novel concept that hasn't been discovered here in TX) and builds some new ones.

When I moved to TX 30 years ago everyone knew that K-12 education was pretty poor (state motto; Thank God for Mississippi, Lousisana and Alabama or we'd be dead last in everything), but we had some of the best public universities in the USA, and in some cases in the world. Now even our universities are dropping due to benign neglect by our legislature (best politicians money can buy) and governor.

I've found that having discussions on anything of any importance with many of my neighbors to have become tiresome. Of course if you think the earth is only 5,000 years old it's probably not too difficult to believe that Bush, Perry and Tom Delay are "great statesmen".

golfgod
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Old 12-11-2007, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Denver
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First utility bill with Xcel...

I used 15 bucks worth of gas for November....not home much...anyways...nothing like 14.85 worth of fees and other BS.

Then on the electric side of the bill 8.00 worth of fees so they can read my meter. The xcel rep was like its not as bad as a mobile bill....i said...your're worse....basically i am getting charged over 50 percent in fees.

Got pay for for that nice lear 45 xcel flys out of Centennial though...so that makes me feel better.
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Old 12-11-2007, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Almost in Denver
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Smile Thanks, golfgod

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Flying buffalos;

We're in the process of relocating from TX (Hill Country) to CO (Loveland) and we're pleased with the change in costs.

Our property tax is taking a BIG DROP, from almost $5K (I'm still waiting for my $2K check from governor big hair), in TX to $1800 in CO. Oh, and the CO house is bigger, newer, nicer, much better built, they have building codes in CO! Also a bit more $.

Our local sales tax here is 8.25 and I think Loveland is only 6.??% (probably higher in the Centerra shopping center)

Our homeowner's insurance (remember, it's NOT REGULATED in TX) is dropping from about $1,000 (3% deductible) to LESS THAN $300 ($1,000 deductible)

I figure we won't be running our A/C constantly from April through October.

I can't find my notes on car insurance but IIRC it was about the same, or even a bit less!

I think you'll find the grocery costs to be pretty similar.

Gasoline has been the same on my last 3 trips.

Vehicle registration fees are a bit more, but it seems that CO actually takes that money and does some work on its roads (a novel concept that hasn't been discovered here in TX) and builds some new ones.

When I moved to TX 30 years ago everyone knew that K-12 education was pretty poor (state motto; Thank God for Mississippi, Lousisana and Alabama or we'd be dead last in everything), but we had some of the best public universities in the USA, and in some cases in the world. Now even our universities are dropping due to benign neglect by our legislature (best politicians money can buy) and governor.

I've found that having discussions on anything of any importance with many of my neighbors to have become tiresome. Of course if you think the earth is only 5,000 years old it's probably not too difficult to believe that Bush, Perry and Tom Delay are "great statesmen".

golfgod
Hahahahaha! Yes, I have been in TX since '75, and everything you say is true. And I can't even begin to talk about the rampant, and seemingly justified to them, homophobia. We had our younger son in private "nondenominational" school, which I could sort of tolerate, until they started telling him that the earth is only 6000 years old, there IS NO evolution, homosexuality is a choice and they are all going straight to hell, and having a single parent could cause you to become a homosexual .
I pulled him out of there two weeks before the end of a semester and told them why. They said they would pray for me. Good for them and their bigoted, hateful beliefs.

The property taxes in Parker are app. 1/2 of what they are here in Temple.
And, yeah, the gas is about the same. And with what the cost of groceries has been here the last few months (since the cost of a barrel of oil hit almost $100), I don't see a big difference between CO and TX on that.

And the AC--We run ours pretty much year round. Oh, we do turn on the heat occasionally, but since we like the temp in the house around 65 degrees, we would be doing the environment a favor by moving to a cooler climate.

As for the politicians here, well, if you can't say anything nice, well...but my husband is pretty sure that Perry is Satan, although there is pretty good evidence that Cheney is. But then CO has xenophobic Tancredo. I'm hoping he is an anomaly.

Thanks for the info!

melissa
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Old 12-12-2007, 06:28 AM
 
Location: Almost in Denver
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Got pay for for that nice lear 45 xcel flys out of Centennial though...so that makes me feel better.
And isn't that really what life is all about? <sigh>
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Old 12-12-2007, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Westminster, CO
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I'm reading this thread and the following has me incredulous:

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they have building codes in CO!
Are you serious? Texas doesn't have building codes????
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