The People (Denver, Colorado Springs, Highlands Ranch: hotel, incomes, jobs)

[vegaspilgrim]

Check out this post on the General US forum.

[hello-world]

Originally Posted by vegaspilgrim

Check out this post on the General US forum.

yeah, the east is where to be at as a single guy looking to not be so single. DC, NY, and boston are quite skewed the other way. i've laughed (cried, rally, but it was public) about this with somebody at a bar in denver once. he said he'd just moved from DC, where his rather average friends had these incredible girlfriends and he had no trouble, only to be met by the shock of denver (his experience to that point).

[jonny_quest]

I've been reading through some posts on this board about how Denver nightlife can typically be described .... As a young single 20-something educated male interested in Denver as a possible relocation, this is a huge turn-off. While I enjoy the outdoors and daytime activities, having a desire for a good nightlife and singles scene is inevitable. I'd love to hear if the "Menver" phenomenon is actually the case from other like-minded individuals.

Some census data shows the state as a whole has one of the lowest % females, but this isn't very useful in trying to determine if there' actually a decent amount of young single educated females in the area.

I've visited the state before, but was unable to look around Denver while there. I found Boulder to be outstanding - in fact near perfect except for the people. Everyone seamed extremely into politics and outspokenly liberal, and most people I spoke to outside Boulder acknowledged this. I'm pretty apathetic about politics, but I certainly don't like having them thrown in my face in the way things were in Boulder. Fort Collins did little to impress me, although I only passed through; it seamed to put the college off to the side and not incorporate it into the town, be very spread out, and have only small area that was nice ("Old Town" I believe it was) on top of having the worst parking and traffic conditions of anywhere I visited in CO. All the towns on the western range were just too small and isolated for my tastes.

[Mike from back east]

Per the stats contained in this thread, yes, afraid that it is the case that men outnumber women here. Maybe OC in CA is better?

[oberon]

You know, the law of equilibrium implies it won't be male biased for all that long. After all, that gives it a reputation of being a "women's choice" city, which should attract more of them in the future, which will return the balance to 50:50. In any case, these sort of statistics are meaningless for relationship/sex potential evaluation without numbers on how many are unavailable as well as the orientation of those that are available. There may be more gay couples than lesbian, for example, and more gay men than lesbian women. And then there's polyamorous relationships as well as bi/trans/gender*****/etc people. And then there's the fact most of those looking for relationships are only interested in a very specific kind of person. Honestly, I don't see any reason to care about these kinds of useless statistics, unless they're really far out of whack.. say, at least 10%. 1%? Are you kidding me? Let's focus on other problems.

[ditto]

IMO, this is a fairly serious problem. We need more women in the Denver area.

[hello-world]

Originally Posted by oberon

You know, the law of equilibrium implies it won't be male biased for all that long. After all, that gives it a reputation of being a "women's choice" city, which should attract more of them in the future, which will return the balance to 50:50. In any case, these sort of statistics are meaningless for relationship/sex potential evaluation without numbers on how many are unavailable as well as the orientation of those that are available. There may be more gay couples than lesbian, for example, and more gay men than lesbian women. And then there's polyamorous relationships as well as bi/trans/gender*****/etc people. And then there's the fact most of those looking for relationships are only interested in a very specific kind of person. Honestly, I don't see any reason to care about these kinds of useless statistics, unless they're really far out of whack.. say, at least 10%. 1%? Are you kidding me? Let's focus on other problems.

this is true. a previous post on this thread links more stats with "# of never married men" and "# of never married women" which might give some insight into that, i suppose. another post shows that, if you look at particular age groups, say 25-34, the ratio is more skewed than in much of alaska. around 115 or 120:100. imagine speed dating with those kinds of odds versus with 50:50 odds. different situations. and for a single guy, i think something like a significant limit of available mates can be a very important situation indeed. it probably has some significant impacts on some politics, economics, etc. too, i'd think. (politics obviously shift on 1%, for example.) as for "far out of whack", people can feel the "out of whack" in places like alaska, which has numbers that are closer to 50:50, right? i've personally sensed these kinds of things i nboth directions in different places to later find out that both places had different ratios: one maybe 87:100, the other maybe 120:100. not very scientific, though, i know. you might be able to find other ways of determining how skewed it might or might not be. i feel for people that feel any imbalance. somehow i doubt there's significantly larger fraction of gay men than gay women, but there seem to be significantly more men than women, so i don't know.

over all though, it's not ..... completely overwhelmingly male. it can take some time to begin to really notice it, i'd think. maybe enough time to begin to find that more of the women you meet are taken hee than you've seen elsewhere. i agree with the "type" comment - that can have a LOT to do with it if, for example, you're not so into the way the people tend to be (it may take longer to find someone you fit with if the culture overall is skewed away from what you prefer).

[oberon]

I would definitely say that cultural differences are going to cause more problems anywhere than a 1% difference in gender populations. Not happy with the kind of mates available here? Go somewhere else where there's more of your type instead of posting on city-data about the lack of suitable mates for you.

[hello-world]

Originally Posted by oberon

I would definitely say that cultural differences are going to cause more problems anywhere than a 1% difference in gender populations. Not happy with the kind of mates available here? Go somewhere else where there's more of your type instead of posting on city-data about the lack of suitable mates for you.

again, it's not "1%" within some realistic age groups. more like 15 or 20% in some cases. as for whether something ought to be posted here, i guess your opinion's as valuable as anyone elses that's posting to the thread.

[Charles]

Originally Posted by jonny_quest

I've been reading through some posts on this board about how Denver nightlife can typically be described .... As a young single 20-something educated male interested in Denver as a possible relocation, this is a huge turn-off.

It's easier to make yourself more attractive or desirable than it is to move somewhere where the statistics are significantly more favorable.