06-13-2014, 08:29 PM
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How is the commute in the winter? Is 4wd and snowtires/chains required? A lot of the homes are on 2 acre lots but they are off dirt roads. Are you on your own in this case or do the dirt/gravel roads get plowed? I'm looking for folks that have lived in the foothills and done the commute through the winters. Is there a significant difference between the properties in the 7000/8000 elevation range vs. those at 9000-9700 feet up Conifer Mountain?
06-13-2014, 08:41 PM
Location: Corona the I.E.
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How is the commute in the winter? Is 4wd and snowtires/chains required? A lot of the homes are on 2 acre lots but they are off dirt roads. Are you on your own in this case or do the dirt/gravel roads get plowed? I'm looking for folks that have lived in the foothills and done the commute through the winters. Is there a significant difference between the properties in the 7000/8000 elevation range vs. those at 9000-9700 feet up Conifer Mountain?
When I lived in Denver Metro the receptionist lived in Confier. Normal drive 40 minutes tech center. Snow day 2 hours with 4 wheel drive truck. Not sure of exact altitude.
In Colorado when you are in rural areas a lot of snow removal is up to you unless it's on a main road for school buses, etc.
06-13-2014, 09:28 PM
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Wife's mom lives by Tiny Town towards Conifer. Snow tires are a must. They have a 4WD and a FWD. Snows on both. The county plows their road, but their driveway is up to them and if it's not plowed, they are stuck even with 4WD and snow tires.
06-13-2014, 10:01 PM
Location: Evergreen
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I live in South Evergreen at 8000 ft. I have many friends that live at the top of both Conifer Mountain and Shadow Mountain. They might get 2-3" more snow than I do during a storm...it's really not that significant. If they are getting snow, we are usually getting snow a short time later at my house.
Snow tires are necessary, but chains are not. The school buses will have chains if the weather is really bad, but personal cars/SUVs do not use chains.
Most of the gravel roads on Conifer Mountain, Shadow Mountain, and out Richmond Hill Road are plowed by Jeffco. There might be a few exceptions. If it's a private road with a few houses on it, there's usually a neighbor that will plow in exchange for a case or two of beer or a small fee. I know of one road that has 8 homes on it where all the homeowners pitched in financially to purchase a piece of heavy equipment to plow/grade their road.
During a given winter, there might be 5-8 days that are sketchy to have to commute. It does sometimes snow on a weekend when a commute is not necessary
Plenty of people choose to live in Conifer. It's a beautiful town!
06-14-2014, 01:09 AM
Location: Coos Bay, Oregon
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How is the commute in the winter? Is 4wd and snowtires/chains required? A lot of the homes are on 2 acre lots but they are off dirt roads. Are you on your own in this case or do the dirt/gravel roads get plowed? I'm looking for folks that have lived in the foothills and done the commute through the winters. Is there a significant difference between the properties in the 7000/8000 elevation range vs. those at 9000-9700 feet up Conifer Mountain?
I have never seen gravel or dirt roads anywhere get plowed. I think it's a safe bet, that if the road isn't paved, it will not get plowed.
06-14-2014, 06:40 AM
Location: Evergreen
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I have never seen gravel or dirt roads anywhere get plowed. I think it's a safe bet, that if the road isn't paved, it will not get plowed.
Seriously? Don't you live in Mountain View, CA? So, honestly you're just throwing your two cents in with NO MERIT? How is that helpful in any way to the OP???
Here's some real examples of gravel roads in Conifer that absolutely get plowed by a Jeffco plow truck: Shiloh Road, Warhawk Road, Christopher Drive, Corsair Drive, Molly Drive, and tons more!!!
06-14-2014, 06:47 AM
Location: Na'alehu Hawaii/Buena Vista Colorado
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I have never seen gravel or dirt roads anywhere get plowed. I think it's a safe bet, that if the road isn't paved, it will not get plowed.
KaaBoom, I guess you never lived in Evergreen or Conifer. I used to live on unpaved Corsair Drive off of unpaved Shadow Mountain Road in Conifer. All were cleared early in the morning because they were school bus routes. Only problem I had is that the snow plows don't care where the driveways are, so sometimes I had to shovel through the "snow berm" to get out of my driveway.
To the OP, JeffCo and CDOT are good at plowing the roads and highways. I think in the five years I lived in Conifer there was only one time that I couldn't get home because it was snowing so heavy that the plows couldn't keep up.
06-14-2014, 07:01 AM
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I have never seen gravel or dirt roads anywhere get plowed. I think it's a safe bet, that if the road isn't paved, it will not get plowed.
I lived in Conifer and Aspen Park.I also worked for what was Mountain Bell in Evergreen also.
Jeff Co did a good job on all roads,majority dirt and gravel.This was in the 70,s.There was no problem using old 285 either into Denver.
06-14-2014, 07:16 AM
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I have never seen gravel or dirt roads anywhere get plowed. I think it's a safe bet, that if the road isn't paved, it will not get plowed.
So inaccurate. My wife's mother lives on a dirt road and Jeffco plows it. Maybe instead of trolling the Denver forum, you should go spend time in the forum of a city you've actually lived in or been to during the wintertime in the past decade.
06-14-2014, 10:04 AM
Location: Coos Bay, Oregon
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Seriously? Don't you live in Mountain View, CA? So, honestly you're just throwing your two cents in with NO MERIT? How is that helpful in any way to the OP???
OK I stand corrected. I have spent most of my life in snowy places, and I have seen a lot of snow plowing. But I have never seen anyone plow a gravel or dirt road.
I just had to YouTube it to see examples. I guess, it can be done. Though it looks difficult.
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Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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