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12-31-2007, 12:07 AM
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As others said, it is not the "green" air quality we used to have. More people moving in, cars, etc. increased the acceptable limits.
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12-31-2007, 04:51 AM
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Wow are there any cities left in the US with good jobs, that are also not polluted so terribly. It is tough to try and find one. 
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i suppose so. personally, it's clear to me that poorly executed growth, poorly executed sprawl, "more jobs", and more people can and do result in these kinds of things.
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12-31-2007, 11:42 AM
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I've noticed on recent "brown cloud" days that it seems to sit mostly over Commerce City and more to the north. For instance, I leave work and from I-25 in Thornton, downtown looks all murky and brown. If I open my window, I can smell it driving down I-270. Then when I get to Stapleton, looking west, downtown looks clean, but looking NW, it's all brown. And I don't smell it at home either. I think there are definitely cleaner areas areas around the metro area. And I haven't seen any days as gross as when I lived here in the early '90s. I remember once in the winter I went outside and everything looked weird. It was sunny, but like I had on sunglasses when I didn't. Then when I got out to Lakewood, I looked back at downtown and only the tops of the highest buildings popped out of a dark, brown cloud. Pretty disgusting. The air here has definitely become cleaner over the years.
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12-31-2007, 07:08 PM
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I don't know how accurate this site is, but Moderator cut: linking to competitors sites is not allowed gives air quality scores. On a scale of 1-100 (with 100 being the best), Denver is 21, Seattle is 4, and Los Angeles is 1 (choke) Home - American Lung Association site will also give air quality info, although it is sometimes difficult to understand--very technical.
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01-01-2008, 04:06 PM
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I've noticed on recent "brown cloud" days that it seems to sit mostly over Commerce City and more to the north. For instance, I leave work and from I-25 in Thornton, downtown looks all murky and brown. If I open my window, I can smell it driving down I-270. Then when I get to Stapleton, looking west, downtown looks clean, but looking NW, it's all brown. And I don't smell it at home either. I think there are definitely cleaner areas areas around the metro area. And I haven't seen any days as gross as when I lived here in the early '90s. I remember once in the winter I went outside and everything looked weird. It was sunny, but like I had on sunglasses when I didn't. Then when I got out to Lakewood, I looked back at downtown and only the tops of the highest buildings popped out of a dark, brown cloud. Pretty disgusting. The air here has definitely become cleaner over the years.
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denverian what suburb area do you live in and which would you suggest in the areas you are describing as not having the brown cloud hanging over them? Thanks!
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01-02-2008, 02:56 PM
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I live in the Littleton/Highlands Ranch area. I can clearly see the brown cloud from this area, but I'm not in it. I don't have facts to back this up, its just what I've observed. I know there is someplace online to find specific data collection locations and find out specific air pollution numbers for the suburbs. I don't know where, but maybe try the Denver/Colorado air pollution regulatory agency web site. I don't even know the name of the agency, and I'm too tired to look it up right now.
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01-02-2008, 09:08 PM
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I live in the Littleton/Highlands Ranch area. I can clearly see the brown cloud from this area, but I'm not in it. I don't have facts to back this up, its just what I've observed. I know there is someplace online to find specific data collection locations and find out specific air pollution numbers for the suburbs. I don't know where, but maybe try the Denver/Colorado air pollution regulatory agency web site. I don't even know the name of the agency, and I'm too tired to look it up right now.
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Just curious--How does one know that he/she is not in a brown cloud? From my experience (albeit Southern California--smog capital of the world), the brown cloud always appears to be in Los Angeles--west of where I live. Yet I know that I am actually in the brown cloud as well, even though the sky may actually look blue and/or the mountains aren't hazy looking. What we see from a distance always looks worse than what we're actually in ourselves.
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01-03-2008, 02:37 PM
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I don't know for sure. I wish I had a picture of how it looked yesterday so you could compare it to what you see in LA. airnow.gov has maps that show current AQI's. when I looked this morning, Denver was yellow, moderate and the closest monitoring station to me in north Douglas County was green, good.
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01-06-2008, 12:29 PM
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What we see from a distance always looks worse than what we're actually in ourselves.
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there's something profound in this
i'm not sure what it is
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01-06-2008, 12:30 PM
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United States Air Quality Map
I guess it works better as a link.
This map and website gives you some perception of air quality across the US in a visual format. There is shockingly little good air quality anywhere in the US.
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