12-28-2014, 02:01 PM
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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In before Jazz!
My first thought when reading this thread was the yard is going to be a problem. Because you are a new poster, your standards for a large yard are a mystery, but you should understand that lawn irrigation in the area you're considering is a very expensive proposition. Furthermore, locals are going to give you a hard time for wasting such a precious resource on maintaining grass. It's the west, and we don't have endless water at our disposal, so you'd be wisest to embrace the natural landscape or plan on a very small yard. Your neighbors will thank you, and so will your wallet.
LOL!
The other thing is, there just aren't a lot of large yards around here, if by large the OP means 1/4 acre or larger.
12-28-2014, 02:31 PM
Location: The analog world
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LOL!
The other thing is, there just aren't a lot of large yards around here, if by large the OP means 1/4 acre or larger.
Yep! There's no indication where this poster hails from, so who knows what large yard means? I speak from experience, though, when I counsel that irrigating a lawn in southern Douglas County is a budget buster. I nearly had a heart attack the first time I opened a water bill after moving to CR, and we weren't watering a lawn, so I only imagine what that would run! I now receive my household water from Denver Water, which thankfully is a bit more affordable. On the flip side, I miss IREA. Our power bill is comparatively high despite our efforts to conserve.
12-29-2014, 10:52 AM
Location: Western USA
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Franktown and Elizabeth are definitely "small town" in feel and size. They are also located on the high plains and in the pines. Expect a bit longer commute from either due to the distance to get to I-25 and/or the traffic on Parker Rd. Depending on where work is a commute of an hour and a half would not be unexpected. Rents should offer something within your budget (Zillow has one home on 2 ac. for $2,100 now), and yard size would be large.
Evergreen has relatively easy access to I-70, but that commute is an absolute nightmare in snowy conditions, and snow it does up there, even in our recent drought years. Rents would be an issue, though a larger yard is likely. The same thing applies to Conifer and Aspen Park - the commute up and down Hwy. 285 is a killer in winter weather and just as with I-70 you get the weekend in the mountains and holiday travel crowd to compete with through the summer. These are places you have to want to live in and then accept the costs of doing so. You can find great forums and local data on:
Pinecam.com - An Electronic Community In The Colorado Rockies
Castle Rock isn't "small town" by any stretch - it's a sprawling suburb now. You likely can find something in your budget, I-25 access is excellent, but yard size will be limited. Expect plenty of retail and restaurants, theater complex, even a new hospital.
Farther south is Monument which has grown rapidly of late, but still has a true small town feel. The Tri-Lakes region allows you more elbow room and a nice rural feel. Palmer Lake has that foothills feel and yet still offers good access to I-25. The commute to Denver is do-able, but long. The Springs is much closer. A large yard would be possible. Expect some hairy driving when it snows on Monument Pass. There is an excellent charter school if you have kids.
Larkspur is pricier, but a large yard is what you'll find. It's part way between Monument and Castle Rock, so commute times to either Denver or the Springs will be similar. It's a pretty and piney locale, but mostly a bedroom community - no immediate town or shopping opportunities, just a post office. They do have a gold course and country club.
Woodland Park is a ways out from the Springs, very much a small mountain town but the commute down US 24 will be at times as messy as those from Evergreen or Conifer. Manitou Springs is closer in, rents will vary, and you might find something nice for well under your budget. In either one a large yard should be available. The Springs will be your only workable commute, so be clear that you have bankable employment there.
South of the Springs are Fountain, Widefield and Security. The commute would be very brief, less than 30 minutes even in bad weather, and rents will be the lowest you will find. It's a bedroom suburb, so expect your basic box with an average size yard. This is price point living with great access as the benefit.
Good luck in your search!
12-29-2014, 11:08 AM
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It is going to be difficult getting a 4 bedroom house in Evergreen for $2,300. However, check with Bear Paw realty on Main Street.
12-29-2014, 07:18 PM
Location: Denver, CO
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The OP specified a "small town" with population between 7,000 and 20,000.
Franktown's population in the 2010 census was under 500; Elizabeth's was around 1400 in 2013. And they're both out in the "flatlands" vs. being in the hills.
Monument's closer to the OP's target, with 5800 population in 2013. Fountain's a city with 27,000 population in 2013. But the OP wants a small town between Denver and the Springs, which rules out Fountain.
12-30-2014, 10:42 AM
Location: Western USA
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The OP specified a "small town" with population between 7,000 and 20,000.
Franktown's population in the 2010 census was under 500; Elizabeth's was around 1400 in 2013. And they're both out in the "flatlands" vs. being in the hills.
Monument's closer to the OP's target, with 5800 population in 2013. Fountain's a city with 27,000 population in 2013. But the OP wants a small town between Denver and the Springs, which rules out Fountain.
One thing to consider is that the physical boundaries of Franktown and Elizabeth are quite small, but surrounding urbanization and development easily puts them in the running.
Franktown benefits from all of Parker's retail and dining assets, as does Elizabeth.
And both are located very much "in the pines". Commutability is a bit of an issue in Elizaebth, less so for for Franktown.
Monument is an easy fit, but can be windy and colder than other choices. The schools are great however and retail is plentiful.
01-07-2015, 12:00 AM
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Since you'd be renting a year or so, location isn't such a huge issue or deal breaker; but if you were buying, location relative to job site commuting would be a HUGE issue, i.e., a dreadful commute for a year may be tolerable until you figger out the optimal place to live.
The small town thing is somewhat problematic, even with the sprawl issues, one is either in a sprawling metro area, or well outside of it, which can set up commuting issues. A commute from Castle Rock to a job in Westminster or Boulder is a commute from hell.
In addition to Monument / Palmer Lake, Larkspur, Sedalia, and Castle Rock there is also Franktown and Elizabeth in that same general area. Some areas around Parker may also get you a somewhat small town or rural feel.
But I hate to see you pick any spot until you know the location of at least one work site. If you can nail that down, the folks on here can give you great advice.
I have 4 small children, so even though we will rent at first, I want at least the toen to be the same one when we purchase a home.
I have two jobs secured, same company and position, one is in denver and the other is in Colorado Springs
01-07-2015, 12:02 AM
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yes,
get the job first (preferably Colorado Springs).
Can you open your scope a bit?
Denver / Colorado Springs is very urban / suburban.
If you are looking for a significant change and good 'small town' quality of life outside of the 'flatlands', consider as far away as possible from Denver.
30 yrs in Colorado I seldom went to Denver (except every night ~ midnight during 7 yrs of trucking to WY).
There are about 10,000 better choices in the region than Denver for better schools and living.
You can probably get by on $1000/ month and have DH rent a basement apartment for $1000/ month for weeknights in Denver if he MUST work there. Hopefully he can work (3) 12hr shifts / week and get out of Denver for 4 days / week.
If you are 'stealth' you can find him a bedroom / apartment in the home of elderly for $300/ month
Use the $700/ month savings on regional travel with your family. We homeschooled, so 12 week field trips were the norm. The 'working' parent would fly / join on long weekends (every other week for 4-6 day stints)
Consider life beyond Colorado (depending on what you are looking for.) For your 'earning yrs' I would recommend nearby WY (income tax free, better wages (for many careers), great schools / university / recreation). SD, WA, NV, AK similar.
Colorado is nice(r) to visit. IMHO, YMMV
i have offers in both Denver and Colorado Springs. I just don't know which city is better to move to.
Oddly enough, we have considered Wyoming...
01-07-2015, 01:22 AM
Location: Pikes Peak Region
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Okay, you have jobs lined up in both Denver and Colorado Springs with the same company, same position. Do they pay the same? If so I would go with Colorado Springs, hands down. It's smaller, the COL is about one-third to half that of Denver and it's so much easier and more feasible to find a place to live in your price range.
Colorado Springs doesn't have very many small-town suburbs within commuting distance other than Woodland Park, Falcon and the Yoder/Ellicott area but it has neighborhoods within the city that feel like a small town. Old Colorado City (zip code 80904) and Manitou Springs (zip code 80829) are just a couple of places that are in close proximity to all the Springs offers but they feel like you're not really in the city.
Colorado Springs is very family-friendly. It's known as the conservative bastion of the Front Range but offers the amenities of the city that it is. It's a good place for what you're looking for.
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People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)