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Old 01-08-2015, 08:50 AM
 
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I live in Westminster (up around the Federal/120th area) and I work downtown (around the Lincoln/18th area). I've lived all over Denver in the past 3 years (Centennial, Lakewood, Park Hill, Federal Heights, Denver and two different areas of Westminster) so I've gotten a sense of different commute times. I swear, I might be insane but it seems like, just in the 3 years I've been here, traffic has become more and more hellish as time goes on.

Is that just me? I saw one poster mention that coming down from Westminster is a horrible area because of the bottleneck there with 36. I thought I might be imagining it and everyone drives 45-60 minutes.

Do you think traffic has gotten worse over the past few years?
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Old 01-08-2015, 09:01 AM
 
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Do you think traffic has gotten worse over the past few years?
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Old 01-08-2015, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado U.S.A.
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I'm sure it slowly gets worse every year since the population of the metro area goes up by thousands every year. I hear Cheyenne doesn't have much of a traffic problem, but then there are more people in just the city of Denver than the entire state of Wyoming.
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Old 01-08-2015, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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I think traffic keeps getting worse, all over town. Details of course will depend on the exact commute involved.

I've lived here a long time, and have a friend who's been here even longer - grew up here. And we're both officially old.

I used to get irritated with that friend, when she would dawdle over a pre-event dinner - ordering coffee after, etc. - and act like everyone else was being silly when we said it was time to get going because we still had to drive to the venue, park, etc. Even when it turned out we barely got there in time!

Finally I realized that she was still operating on obsolete concepts of how long it now takes to drive anywhere in Denver. She's not stupid, but has always had her home/work life set up so as to not have any long commutes. So I started pointing out to her when we planned to do anything, that "we" old timers now need to double the time it takes to drive anywhere around Denver. Even fairly short trips when it's a matter of getting into a downtown theatre for an evening performance, especially on weekends. It didn't take too many conversations along those lines for her to get it.

I talked about "doubling" travel time thinking it was somewhat exaggerated but I was trying to make a point with my friend. But I don't think it really *is* an exaggeration after all. Even keeping in mind that I need to allow more drive time especially when going more than a few miles around town, I sometimes shave things too close because I shoulda started earlier.
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Old 01-08-2015, 11:21 AM
 
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It is unfortunate, but over the past several years, I've been scheduling my appointments and commuting routes around known traffic conditions and what they could be. Never like that when I arrived here in 1981 to Lowry and pretty much stayed that way until about 1998 when the congestion became much more definite. I remember when it was absolutely barren between the DTC and the Springs on I-25. There were no houses anywhere around Red Rocks off 285.

"They come by the millions, the Hipsters, the Prince, and the Clowns." (W. Nile)

"They try to tear the mountains down to bring in a couple more, more people, more scars upon the land." (J. Denver)
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Old 01-08-2015, 11:51 AM
 
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Denver is a growing metro area in terms of population and to me, there are some shifts in where that population is living. On the west, I'm seeing quite a bit of "infill" building going on, but no real road improvements to support those people.

You'll see a lot of people on this forum advocate living close to your work. I get that idea completely as a way to reduce the need for roads, allowing mass transit options to better serve the need of "people movement."

BUT, I just can't fully back that idea, because I believe in a "life" focus over a job focus. And my job may not always be located where I want to live my life!

Hey, maybe people like me are part of the problem, but I moved to Colorado to be near the mountains, to have the views, recreation opportunities, etc. I'm completely willing to trade off a longer commute for living where I want.

In fact, it's more important to me that I can get to Summit County in 60-90 minutes a couple times a month versus having a 15 minute longer commute to work every day. I prefer that over the 2 hour drive to the mountains my friends from the south suburbs are guaranteed. Heck, I don't have to get up as early as they do

Back to the real issue though, and that is a lack of infrastructure. I've been here for going on 2 decades and Colorado has always seemed to have a big tug of war going on with growth and how to accommodate it - and it seems that just ignoring it's happening has been one tactic used too often.

That said, they are working on some project to make things better, they are just doing them out of forced need instead of properly forecast planning.
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Old 01-08-2015, 12:10 PM
 
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...I might be insane but it seems like, just in the 3 years I've been here, traffic has become more and more hellish as time goes on...
You are not insane. Probably 3 or 4 years ago I could go anywhere at off commute times and count on light traffic. About 2 yrs ago I stopped saying that as the traffic was pretty dense but still moving at off hours. Now, maybe not moving quite so much.

But with all these people and traffic we get tons of jobs. Lots of new restaurants. More spending on our entertainment infrastructure. Gentrifying old areas that were in decay or decline are becoming trendy and sought after. We get new buildings, shopping, restaurants, infrastructure improvements (hospitals, public transit like light and heavy rail, Union Station). New trails are being built. Public parks and open spaces are kept up and being added to etc.

If we were in decline and the traffic was getting better the construction people would all be out of work. The restaurants would be closing. The house values would be going down. People would be defaulting on their loans. We would have neighborhoods in decay with empty homes. All those old malls that have been or are being torn down and turned into walkable malls would be sitting there empty. The officials would be trying to tax us more to pay for the upkeep of the existing infrastructure. They wouldn't be building more rail etc.

Right now the traffic is not great but still not bad enough to drive people to public transit in many cases. Eventually it will be.
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Old 01-08-2015, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Evergreen, Colorado
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I swear, I might be insane but it seems like, just in the 3 years I've been here, traffic has become more and more hellish as time goes on.
It's not just you. I've driven from Westminster to Denver for the past 12 years and agree, the last three years have been .... special.

I now live in Evergreen and can get downtown in the same 45 minutes it took me from Westminster, and I'm 10 miles further away. Go figure. I guess the north-side is just exploding.

I suspect another good increase in congestion after the Candelas development has sold out.
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Old 01-08-2015, 01:22 PM
 
Location: The Berk in Denver, CO USA
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Never like that when I arrived here in 1981
Denver's Population
1980 - 492K
1990 - 467K (yes, down)
2000 - 554K
2010 - 600K
today - 620K

Denver's increase in square miles since 1980 (not counting the airport)
zero

Do the math.
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Old 01-08-2015, 01:40 PM
 
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Denver's Population
1980 - 492K
1990 - 467K (yes, down)
2000 - 554K
2010 - 600K
today - 620K

Denver's increase in square miles since 1980 (not counting the airport)
zero

Do the math.
1985 was the oil bust, real estate values dropped, crime was up dramatically in Denver 1987 (ice started showing up on the street, Crips and Bloods starting sets in Denver), people bailed.

1992 was a jerk who led the cops on a high speed chase across the foothills of Los Angeles. It seems that all of Southern California heard about Colorado after they tired of Seattle. Guess what happened?
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