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Old 06-12-2016, 09:29 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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^^^^ Denver is brown half the year. Phoenix is green year-round. I've lived in both cities. I'll take the heat.
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Old 06-13-2016, 07:00 AM
 
Location: CO
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^^^^ Denver is brown half the year. Phoenix is green year-round. I've lived in both cities. I'll take the heat.
Thanks to 2.8 million acre-feet annually of Colorado River water. You're welcome.
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Old 06-13-2016, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Thanks to 2.8 million acre-feet annually of Colorado River water. You're welcome.
OK, but don't think Denver metro doesn't use a hefty share of water on outside irrigation also.
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Old 06-13-2016, 08:21 AM
 
Location: In The Thin Air
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Neither city should be green all year round.
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Old 06-13-2016, 08:36 AM
SQL
 
Location: The State of Delusion - Colorado
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Every metropolitan area has issues, but ignoring the bad things of Denver and being overly optimistic about this area rather pathetic.

Denver - aging infrastructure not up to today's standards, overly priced homes (affordable only to rich liberals), endless traffic until 10pm - 5am
This is just plain wrong. Clearly you have not spent time in aging rust belt cities of the Midwest or on the East Coast. Our infrastructure here is far superior and updated in comparison to most places in those regions.

I will say that our lack of infrastructure is an issue IMO. The roadway systems are sub par and inadequate, especially the further east of I-25 you go. I think they need a couple more east-west running highways to serve the eastern metro area, equivalent to Hwy 6 and 285. We have nothing on the east side other than Parker Road and an overpriced toll road in E-470.
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Old 06-13-2016, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Texas
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. Why not complain about the prices in New York or San Francisco or any of the other countless cities in this country that cost more than Lincoln?

Honestly all this thread sounds like is sour grapes. If you truly believed that Lincoln was a better place to live than Denver, why would you waste your time complaining about how much Denver costs? You wouldn't is the answer. You're bitter that you want what you can't afford. Welcome to the real world. Again, sour grapes.

I'd like a 3000 sq/ft slope side house in Aspen. I can't afford it. I'm not complaining.
No sour grapes here. I grew up in Colorado Springs and Denver and all my relatives are here, although they are moving when they retire.

I have no sour grapes as I have no jealousy of the people who reside in Denver. I grew up partly in NW Denver.

Other then a small area around of white-table cloth restaurants with 300% markups at 32nd and Tejon and 32nd and Lowell it doesn't offer much.

I was in NW Denver having a cup of coffee and I know a 20-something year old guy from Los Angeles walked in and was laughing at deserted the neighborhood felt compared to Los Angeles. Granted, it was middle-afternoon on a weekday. But still it is funny the reaction people with high expectations have from the Denver lifestyle magazines and tourism bureau publications have when they come to this city.

I think it is funny how these yuppies are bidding up these Denver homes to astronomical levels in neighborhoods that aren't even that nice.

In the 90s it was all "North Denver", but the realtors and marketing publications now call every tiny-micro area in Denver a different neighborhood with a hip name to attract millenials.

I think it is certainly interesting also when these out-of state yuppies flock to Denver thinking it is the perfect city and end up in neighborhoods like Cole, Whittier or Northeast Park Hill. They pay $300,000+ for a small shack with a very small yard with very little retail to live in a very high-crime area.

I personally would never want to live in Aspen. It is isolated, cold, snowy and ultra-pretentious. I also have less energy and don't feel right when I am at that altitude.

It is interesting how this city also gets a pass on it's cold weather. Yes, they do have 10-20 days of very warm winter downslope winds but overall Denver gets nearly as many nights below freezing as Minnesota.

I am not saying Denver is a bad city overall, it is very overrated. It is just very interesting to see a real estate bubble in action.

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Old 06-13-2016, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Aurora, CO
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It is interesting how this city also gets a pass on it's cold weather. Yes, they do have 10-20 days of very warm winter downslope winds but overall Denver gets nearly as many days below freezing as Minnesota.
Instead of comparing overnight lows, try daytime highs. Minneapolis spends a solid three months below freezing 24 hours a day. Denver does not.
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Old 06-13-2016, 11:56 AM
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Location: The State of Delusion - Colorado
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No sour grapes here. I grew up in Colorado Springs and Denver and all my relatives are here, although they are moving when they retire.

I have no sour grapes as I have no jealousy of the people who reside in Denver. I grew up partly in NW Denver.

Other then a small area around of white-table cloth restaurants with 300% markups at 32nd and Tejon and 32nd and Lowell it doesn't offer much.

I have never seen a city that hypes it's neighborhoods as much as Denver does.

I was in NW Denver having a cup of coffee and I know a 20-something year old guy from Los Angeles walked in and was laughing at deserted the neighborhood felt compared to Los Angeles. Granted, it was middle-afternoon on a workday. But still it is funny the reaction people with high expectations have from the Denver lifestyle magazines and tourism bureau publications have when they come to this city.

I think it is funny how these yuppies are bidding up these Denver homes to astronomical levels in neighborhoods that aren't even that nice.

I personally would never want to live in Aspen. It is isolated, cold, snowy and ultra-pretentious. I also have less energy and don't feel right when I am at that altitude.

It is interesting how this city also gets a pass on it's cold weather. Yes, they do have 10-20 days of very warm winter downslope winds but overall Denver gets nearly as many days below freezing as Minnesota.
It's all relative, OP. A lot of people are moving here from places that either were far more expensive, or far less expensive but didn't have much to offer. My friends from MI just came in for a visit and were in awe over how many things are are to do here in comparison to Metro Detroit. They were also in awe over how new and clean everything appeared.

There are undoubtedly better places to live in the US. But people come here for a reason. It's a cool city with plenty of entertainment, the weather is pretty darn good, there are jobs, there are mountains, public transit is pretty good. I've been to a good amount of cities in the US. With the exception of the west coast, there are no other places I'd rather live.
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Old 06-13-2016, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Washington Park, Denver
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It's all relative, OP. A lot of people are moving here from places that either were far more expensive, or far less expensive but didn't have much to offer. My friends from MI just came in for a visit and were in awe over how many things are are to do here in comparison to Metro Detroit. They were also in awe over how new and clean everything appeared.

There are undoubtedly better places to live in the US. But people come here for a reason. It's a cool city with plenty of entertainment, the weather is pretty darn good, there are jobs, there are mountains, public transit is pretty good. I've been to a good amount of cities in the US. With the exception of the west coast, there are no other places I'd rather live.
This.

I don't understand why the OP feels that he needs to understand others' taste though. It's a strange thread and despite what he says still feels like sour grapes.

Plenty of people are happy in Lincoln or Memphis or Atlanta or St. Louis, or ...... I don't need to understand why. I know I don't want to live in those places and that others are happy in them. That's good enough for me.
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Old 06-13-2016, 12:39 PM
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Location: The State of Delusion - Colorado
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This.

I don't understand why the OP feels that he needs to understand others' taste though. It's a strange thread and despite what he says still feels like sour grapes.

Plenty of people are happy in Lincoln or Memphis or Atlanta or St. Louis, or ...... I don't need to understand why. I know I don't want to live in those places and that others are happy in them. That's good enough for me.
To answer OP's question about why it's so expensive to live here right now, it all boils down to supply and demand. Denver has grown rapidly over the last decade or so and continues to grow at an astounding pace. That said, there just isn't enough housing inventory to satisfy this influx in population. Simply put, it's expensive to live here because people are willing to move here and pay the higher price to live here.
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