Denver- Give me no Bull!

[CameraGirl]

Hey New York Guy,

I haven't agreed with much that I have read on this thread- I am a little confused by your saying that Denver is cookie cutter. I always think of it as looking old and varied. I think that when you get here you'll see that actually many area's/ neighborhoods/ suburbs look different from one another- neighborhoods all have different styles of people and houses. Maybe, not like N.Y., but certainly different. Luckily, we have tons of places to ski- all in a one-day easy style- so experiment until you find what floats your boat. I do like Eldora, but I like many ski area's -the ones I don't like is the ones where all the tourists flock to- Vail, Aspen etc... The annoying guy at the ski resort- is what locals like to think of as a tourist and I would be willing to bet that he actually was one. The tourist skiers have a chip on their shoulder and assume that they are on a leave from all normal social mores- like being kind and respectful. Regarding CO. being out in the middle of no-where it is, but it has an excellant airport with good rates to fly places, plus tons of easy day-trips to all kinds of cute places like Breckenridge, Vail, Colorado Springs, Boulder, Estes Park and Fort Collins. Super easy- 3 day weekend places are- Santa Fe, Durango, Telluride, Albuquerque, Salt Lake City & Phoenix. You can easily fly to Mexico for a leisurely paced 4 day trip. Now, about T.J's the word is they haven't come to Denver because of a lack of easy distribution, same with IKEA. I feel like both will eventually have to come here- the demand is too great for both. Plus, IKEA is in Utah now so they seem to be heading here. I would have thought Denver would have gotten one first but it will come. But, we do have tons of health food stores and green grocers- Whole Foods, Sunflower, Wild Oats etc... you won't be hopelessly wandering around un-able to find the kind of product they sell at T.J's or the prices- try Sunflower Markets. As far as IKEA goes- inexpensive furniture stores are all over Denver- tons of them. With even better quality than IKEA. But, if you have to have IKEA (take one of your road trips to the new one in Utah)- spend a couple of days and bring back what you buy or ship it. That is what I am planning to do.

About San Diego- I really like CA. myself but I find S.D. to be very boring- I use to spend about 6 months a year there and I find Denver to have more festivals and events. Colorado has tons of festivals. But, I do like the weather in CA but, I don't think of our weather as bad here. I like 4 seasons and I think snow is peaceful and beautiful. I also love to swim and play tennis and so I love all the sunny, warm days too.

House-wise- you won't get anything in S.D. for $250- that will be a stretch in CO too. But, it can be done. You both can find work in Denver easily.

At times you sound nice and open-minded and friendly and times you come off very tough. I hope the fun version of yourself comes here. It's a nice place. The area has lots of things for couples to do here. We are very similar to you and your wife- no kids, no intention to and I think you'll be happy to find a lot of people who share your same values.

[Katiana]

Originally Posted by Mike78613

Don't let IKEA stop you from moving to Denver. lol

I would definitely agree with the above.

I haven't agreed with much that I have read on this thread- I am a little confused by your saying that Denver is cookie cutter. I always think of it as looking old and varied. I think that when you get here you'll see that actually many area's/ neighborhoods/ suburbs look different from one another- neighborhoods all have different styles of people and houses.

I would also agree with the above, and have posted such many times over.

Regarding the isolation, I kind of like it! Generally, the pols leave us alone to a certain extent. Maybe not this year, since we are having the convention and CO is also supposed to be a "swing state" or something, but in years past, we have been virtually ignored in national elections. I never saw the "Harry and Louise" politcal commercials of a few years back that were supposed to be about social security, I think. I just read about them in national news magazines. That is just one example.

[ScranBarre]

Trader Joe's? Is that like a Wegman's?

[Charles]

Originally Posted by SWB

Trader Joe's? Is that like a Wegman's?

No. It is more like a discount gourmet food store, much smaller than Wegmans (which from my experience is really nice also). TJs specializes in semi-gourmet health food, beer, wines, coffees, semi-unusual food, grains, cheeses, those kinds of thing...going on memory here....

[Mike from back east]

Originally Posted by SWB

Trader Joe's? Is that like a Wegman's?

No comparison. Wegman's in Sterling, VA is like Disneyland for Food. Huge store, like Whole Foods only 2-3 times the size. No emphasis on keeping prices down. Drive down to the DC area sometime and see it. You can eat right in the store, IIRC they will actually prepare what you buy and serve it to you. FYI: Sterling, VA is at Dulles Airport, a doable day trip from Scranton.

OTOH, TJ's tend to locate in small strip malls in nice areas, in small old supermarket buildings vacated by the big chains as they upsize. TJ's is known for finding small suppliers who make excellent frozen entrees, but are too small to supply the massive quantities that big chains need. Sort of boutique food, WITH an eye on affordability. TJ's is famous for selling tons of Charles Shaw wines at $2 a bottle, hence Two Buck Chuck, and usually found only at TJ's because there isn't enough markup in a bottle to make big chains want to stock it, they want to sell you Kendall Jackson for $13 a bottle. Charles Shaw pulled a coup years ago and bought up huge amounts of excess wine from the wineries, blending it nicely and selling it cheaply.

[ANAPA]

Originally Posted by condorito

Thanks! I have been thinking about your city lately but I dont understand one thing, What is the deal with this city not having IKEA or Trader Joe's? Of course, my life doesn't revolve around stores and all this nonsense but I have got to make my boss(wife) happy, ya know?. Are these stores ever coming to your city or what is the deal? Like I said, I like to go skiing and when I skied CO last time, it was crowded, I did not like the phony types either, I was ready to pick a couple fights with some unfriendly phony/redneck type, I mean, he was a phony piece of scum trying to be somebody, for that reason, I did not get to enjoy my day because of these losahs, I was in Frisco and I did Copper Mountain but everything turned out to be too damn expensive. $7 bucks for a bologna sandwich, are you out of your mind? Listen, I would not mind going to a smaller no baloney mountain if that is what it takes. I hear some good things about Eldora. Any ski places in the area without all the glitz or should I say, the bull****? Once again, I hope you don't mind my questions but I have been considering your city, tell me what you got for us.

Please stop. I was raised in the Bronx and lived in Brooklyn for a full decade. New Yorkers do not mispell things this way, and the reason we don't is because an accent doesn't affect our typing skills. You're coming across as someone from the Mid-West who watched a lot of episodes of The Sopranos and now wants people to think he's from NYC.

Please stop.

[condorito]

Originally Posted by ANAPA

Please stop. I was raised in the Bronx and lived in Brooklyn for a full decade. New Yorkers do not mispell things this way, and the reason we don't is because an accent doesn't affect our typing skills. You're coming across as someone from the Mid-West who watched a lot of episodes of The Sopranos and now wants people to think he's from NYC.

Please stop.

Hey big baby, I was born and raised in Bensonhurst, want to see my birth certificate?, I will send you a copy. Now, where are you coming from?

[formercalifornian]

Originally Posted by ANAPA

Please stop. I was raised in the Bronx and lived in Brooklyn for a full decade. New Yorkers do not mispell things this way, and the reason we don't is because an accent doesn't affect our typing skills. You're coming across as someone from the Mid-West who watched a lot of episodes of The Sopranos and now wants people to think he's from NYC.

Please stop.

Wasn't the Sopranos set in New Jersey?

[ANAPA]

Originally Posted by formercalifornian

Wasn't the Sopranos set in New Jersey?

Yep, but I figure that's where he got the phoney "New York," typing accent.