Are millennials ruining Denver?

[Thom Hanks]

Originally Posted by Katarina Witt

Generally, Millenialism is considered to comprise people born from the early 1980s through the 1990s. Therefore, the oldest of them are in their mid 30s. Plenty of those people are mayors, state legislators, and city planners.
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Ralph_Kirk was explaining that Millennials haven't been around long enough to screw the world up, as OP (from here and the LA rant fest) has insinuated. If you want to rant and rave, come back to us in 30-40 years and you can critique our performance then.

That's the point I took away.

[Thom Hanks]

Originally Posted by MN_Ski

It doesn't matter what decade it is, or what generation it is...any group of 20-somethings in a given period of time will always be "awful".

Haven't we learned anything from the previous election? It's any group of people who are different from us are "awful".

[Katarina Witt]

Originally Posted by Thom Hanks

Ralph_Kirk was explaining that Millennials haven't been around long enough to screw the world up, as OP (from here and the LA rant fest) has insinuated. If you want to rant and rave, come back to us in 30-40 years and you can critique our performance then.

That's the point I took away.

He also said:

They're not mayors or governors or city planners.


They're not state legislators.

I showed evidence that's not true. Is that "ranting and raving"? I seriously doubt I'll be here in 30-40 years.

[Thom Hanks]

Originally Posted by Katarina Witt

He also said:



I showed evidence that's not true. Is that "ranting and raving"? I seriously doubt I'll be here in 30-40 years.

Not you specifically, I was speaking in general terms. Yes, there are plenty of people ranting and raving about Millennials on this forum. I invite you to check out the LA thread, which is identical to this one.

[Ralph_Kirk]

Originally Posted by Katarina Witt

Generally, Millenialism is considered to comprise people born from the early 1980s through the 1990s. Therefore, the oldest of them are in their mid 30s. Plenty of those people are mayors, state legislators, and city planners.
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Gimme a break! My daughter is a native and she married a transplant. I know, just an anecdote, but I've never heard any of that kind of talk from her or her friends. Not like you hear it with some Boomers.

Born in the early 80s is pretty old for a Millennial, but even though some of them might be small-town mayors and such, the Millennial generation is nowhere near having displaced Boomers and X-genners to be said to be "ruining" the housing economy.

[Katarina Witt]

Originally Posted by Ralph_Kirk

Born in the early 80s is pretty old for a Millennial, but even though some of them might be small-town mayors and such, the Millennial generation is nowhere near having displaced Boomers and X-genners to be said to be "ruining" the housing economy.

"The term Millennials is usually considered to apply to individuals who reached adulthood around the turn of the 21st century. The precise delineation varies from one source to another, however. Neil Howe and William Strauss, authors of the 1991 book Generations: The History of America's Future, 1584 to 2069, are often credited with coining the term. Howe and Strauss define the Millennial cohort as consisting of individuals born between 1982 and 2004."
What is Millennials (Millennial generation)? - Definition from WhatIs.com

My allowable three. Other sources give different years:
Iconoclast: Born after 1978 (No end date given)
Newsweek: Born between 1977 and 1994.
NYT: Two different articles with different dates: 1976-1990 and 1978-1998.
Time: 1980-2000.

Born in 1976: Turning 41 this year
Born in 1977: Turning 40 this year
Born in 1978: Turning 39 this year
Born in 1980: Turning 37 this year
Born in 1982: Turning 35 this year

Even using the most conservative definition, the oldest Millennials are turning 35. These people are well into their careers for the most part. The cities with young mayors are not all small towns, e.g. Mayor Luke in Pittsburgh (>300,000 residents), South Bend (>101,000), and several in the 50,000+ range. Why wouldn't any of them be employed as urban planners? The vast majority are done with college/grad school.

I can't find any age listings for state legislators.
Here's one who would be considered a millennial by one of the definitions: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Penry The 13 youngest legislators in my previous link were all born in 1991 - 1996.

Now most of the Mills that I know are working at regular jobs, getting promotions, or are moms of young kids. Even someone born in 1995 is probably through college or close to being done by now.

[Thom Hanks]

Originally Posted by Katarina Witt

"The term Millennials is usually considered to apply to individuals who reached adulthood around the turn of the 21st century. The precise delineation varies from one source to another, however. Neil Howe and William Strauss, authors of the 1991 book Generations: The History of America's Future, 1584 to 2069, are often credited with coining the term. Howe and Strauss define the Millennial cohort as consisting of individuals born between 1982 and 2004."
What is Millennials (Millennial generation)? - Definition from WhatIs.com

My allowable three. Other sources give different years:
Iconoclast: Born after 1978 (No end date given)
Newsweek: Born between 1977 and 1994.
NYT: Two different articles with different dates: 1976-1990 and 1978-1998.
Time: 1980-2000.

Born in 1976: Turning 41 this year
Born in 1977: Turning 40 this year
Born in 1978: Turning 39 this year
Born in 1980: Turning 37 this year
Born in 1982: Turning 35 this year

Even using the most conservative definition, the oldest Millennials are turning 35. These people are well into their careers for the most part. The cities with young mayors are not all small towns, e.g. Mayor Luke in Pittsburgh (>300,000 residents), South Bend (>101,000), and several in the 50,000+ range. Why wouldn't any of them be employed as urban planners? The vast majority are done with college/grad school.

I can't find any age listings for state legislators.
Here's one who would be considered a millennial by one of the definitions: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Penry The 13 youngest legislators in my previous link were all born in 1991 - 1996.

Now most of the Mills that I know are working at regular jobs, getting promotions, or are moms of young kids. Even someone born in 1995 is probably through college or close to being done by now.

You're missing the point entirely. Millennials are being blamed for problems they've had no part in because they are too young still. Again, if you want to rant and rave at us, come talk to us in 20-30 years from now. I'm sure we'll have our own list of issues that we're responsible for.

[Mike from back east]

Enough of this crap. Thread closed.