Denver and shootings

[Timmyy]

Originally Posted by Port Pitt Ash

Why would I need data? I'm not trying to prove this is the case, but rather why the area seems to be known for it when it's likely other places have just as much or more instances.

Yes, seems to. See I can put it in a sentence like Denver seems to have less crime than Detroit. I could keep going, but you get the point. I don't associate Denver with very high crime and I don't think most people do either. Is there something I should know?

Next I suppose you're going to want data on Texas having crime/"dangerous cities" cities.



Not directly. Point I was trying to make was maybe they standout more since there's less crime there than some other areas.

I can understand that point of view from somebody outside the city and state. I used to think New York City was known for its crime and now to me it is known as the location of the worst terror attack in human history. I haven't been there but I know there is more to the city than just being a terror target.

It should be noted that the Aurora Theater shooter was not home grown. He came from San Diego and had a history of mental illness. The people that were treating him just didn't know the extent of his illness even after he quit getting help.

[SkyDog77]

This thread is ridiculous.

[Gorges]

Originally Posted by Port Pitt Ash

Why would I need data? I'm not trying to prove this is the case, but rather why the area seems to be known for it when it's likely other places have just as much or more instances.

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Not directly. Point I was trying to make was maybe they standout more since there's less crime there than some other areas.

They don't stand out because there is less overall crime. They stand out because they were horrific. Columbine was the first/worst massacre of its kind at a school. Nobody ever dreamed this could happen. It was headline news for a long time, during a time when cable wasn't that big and families did tend to watch the news together every night, and Colorado just wasn't in the news that much at the time for anything else. It stays with you. The theater shooting was similar. It hadn't happened before in a movie theater, a place where families go to be entertained and had never felt unsafe doing so. I lived on the east coast when these happened, but the association with Colorado is ingrained. The Arapahoe HS shooting occurred a few months before we moved here and former co-workers advised us to be careful because of all the shootings that occur here. I feel the same way about the Va Tech massacre. That will always stay with me because it was so incredibly horrible. Who ever thought this many students (32) could die at the hands of another student while in their classrooms. Some things you never forget.

[TCHP]

Originally Posted by Port Pitt Ash

Denver and other places around Colorado seem to have fairly low violence, but it seems to be a hot spot for those mass shootings. Anyone have theories why on this may be a thing?

Originally Posted by JrzDefector

It may simply be that guns are easier to get and access here. I'm from Jersey, which has pretty strict gun laws. Crime rates are technically higher than in Colorado. But I've found crime here to be more random.

In a word...PERCEPTION.

There is plenty of evidence to prove the contrary. However, personal perception creates the reality we tend to use to create our views.

[pikabike]

Good grief. There are so many variables at play that to attribute unusual violence to gun laws or any other one or two factors is simple-minded at best.

The Columbine killers were not typical HS students in CO or anywhere else. They were extremely f'ed up, AND the many warning signs were not taken seriously. The school culture might not be perfect (whatever that is)--and yet many thousands of other kids there somehow managed not to become murderers. Hmmmm.

Let's forget about gun-specific violence and talk violence in general. Let's take mass murderers who used other means, and let's say that there was something about the state they lived in that caused them to commit those crimes. BULL! It is the state of their MINDS that is to blame, not their geographic state.

[Westbound and Down]

Originally Posted by SkyDog77

This thread is ridiculous.

Yes, it is. My thoughts exactly...

[Mike from back east]

Originally Posted by SkyDog77

This thread is ridiculous.

I think we all agree on that. We've had several of these threads over the years and this one is ending up the same as the others: CLOSED.