I HATE this weather! (Denver, Colorado Springs: beaches, retire, best)

[LeftHook]

Originally Posted by steveco.

Uhm..... you could.... Relocate??? Just a thought

Hehehe Lol Well for your infor Steve, I am locating...To Colorado Springs. What's your take on CS my friend?

[LeftHook]

Originally Posted by sberdrow

well I agree with lefthook, you couldnt pay me to live there in OKlhoma. Just about everything is on the ugly side there. Don't know why anyone stays there. I have been there quite a few times when I lived in Texas. He is right, Co is a much better weather (and just about everything else) state.

I think you would like it in Colorado. People like me complain because we come form less dramatic environments..but your right, there is always worse places a person could live.

Hehehe...I won! lol. Seriously you are right about "things could always be worse". Oklahoma ain't hell, but it's sure close to it!!

[sberdrow]

Originally Posted by LeftHook

Hehehe Lol Well for your infor Steve, I am locating...To Colorado Springs. What's your take on CS my friend?

Ill give you mine. CS is the most beautiful city on the front range. The Weather is better by a lttle bit when compared to denver. You are 5-7 degrees warmer in the winter, and generally a little cooler in the summer. Why, I don't know. Maybe its the fact you are a little closer to the Rockies.
If you have to work in Denver, that could be trying on your nerves in the winter, as I25 traffic is heavy from all the people that do the 60 miles. Gas is cheaper in Colorado than most states. You run into a bit of a heavy religeous element in CS, but thats a topic for another thread.

[steveco.]

Originally Posted by LeftHook

Hehehe Lol Well for your infor Steve, I am locating...To Colorado Springs. What's your take on CS my friend?

I agree that for a big city CS takes the cake with pikes peak. It sort of reminds me of a Colorado version of Salt lake city only with a larger military vibe going on. Most of the city is suburban sprawl and there is only one main highway that runs north to south. Getting east to west is a nightmare at any time of day due to lack of proper transit and TONS of traffic signals. On the weather side, since thats what this thread is all about. It is a much more stable climate I believe than denver. During the summer it tends to stay a few degrees cooler as its higher in elev. and closer to the hills. During the winter they tend to also miss out on some of the major snow storms with mild snow totals. You never hear about blizzards shutting down Colorado Springs...

[jazzlover]

I'm going to concentrate on the weather and climate of Colorado Springs. I will say that the weather there is my favorite feature of the Springs--the Springs metro area itself, unfortunately, I find a particularly loathsome example of modern American auto-dependent suburban crap. A pity, because Colorado Springs has one of the nicest physical settings in Colorado and a most interesting climate--which modern "progress" is doing its damnedest to destroy as quickly as possible. So, I love the weather in the Springs, but really dislike the town itself.

Now, the climate and weather. Colorado Springs does have somewhat milder winter weather than Denver, despite being higher in elevation. This is mostly due to the fact that the Palmer Divide often blocks severely cold air masses that affect Denver from reaching the Springs--they tend to slide off of the Palmer Divide eastward on to the plains. Colorado Springs can get severe snowstorms and blizzards, often with higher snow totals than Denver, under the right conditions. It usually happens when a "Trinidad low" (named because it passes over Trinidad, Colorado) scoots along the Colorado/New Mexico border. That sets up a "perfect storm" condition that fetches Gulf of Mexico moisture, brings it north and northwestward, and slams it up against the Rampart Range and Palmer Divide. It doesn't happen often, but can dump snow on the Springs measured in feet when it does.

Now, in summer, the weather in Colorado Springs is much more capricious than in Denver. Once again, the Palmer Divide plays a role. Gulf moisture once again moves northward and bumps up against the Palmer Divide and Rampart Range. Summertime heating combines with orographic destabilization of the atmosphere to form the typical afternoon thunderstorms that then drift off of the Palmer Divide and Rampart Ranges and then over Colorado Springs. Some go severe, with heavy rain, large hail, and--out on the plains--the occasional tornado. This activity occurs on almost a daily basis in summer from the Palmer Divide south to around Fountain. It can also occur up toward Denver pretty frequently, but on a number of days, there is not enough moisture or winds to carry over the Palmer Divide. On those days, the Springs will get rain, but Denver and points north won't. That is why the Palmer Divide south over Colorado Springs is the most thunderstorm-prone area in Colorado. As a stormwatcher, I find that feature of Colorado Springs climate quite interesting. Too bad the town isn't worthy of its interesting climatic features.

[vegaspilgrim]

Originally Posted by jazzlover

As a stormwatcher, I find that feature of Colorado Springs climate quite interesting. Too bad the town isn't worthy of its interesting climatic features.

It's worthy to me. I took a trip to Colorado Springs, Pueblo, and Canon City last weekend. I really like the old parts of Colorado Springs (with the exception of the areas just south of downtown). Downtown Colorado Springs, while it could certainly improve, is a nice small city downtown. Old Colorado city is nice. Manitou Springs, while it's a tourist trap of course, is a great tourist trap. Tons of families there with little kids. Actually, Colorado Springs as a whole has a lot of charm. The far north sprawled out suburban areas by the Air Force academy, I don't really care for though.

[sberdrow]

Originally Posted by vegaspilgrim

It's worthy to me. I took a trip to Colorado Springs, Pueblo, and Canon City last weekend. I really like the old parts of Colorado Springs (with the exception of the areas just south of downtown). Downtown Colorado Springs, while it could certainly improve, is a nice small city downtown. Old Colorado city is nice. Manitou Springs, while it's a tourist trap of course, is a great tourist trap. Tons of families there with little kids. Actually, Colorado Springs as a whole has a lot of charm. The far north sprawled out suburban areas by the Air Force academy, I don't really care for though.

To bad you and I couldnt have just switched pads, as you want to escape AZ, and I wanted outa Colorado. I think we both agree that CS is worth living in though. I just could not find a job to support me there. It was a major bummer. With the great weather, and beautiful mountains, CS would have been ideal. Oh well. Im getting my body ready from the intense heat. I go walking in 98 degrees for about 2 hours. I seem to be getting used to it. Now, 104 is where I draw the line on going out side. Watch out for the sun burns in Colorado, you don't even know your getting one, and WHAM you lay down in your bed and O U C H.

[jazzlover]

Originally Posted by vegaspilgrim

It's worthy to me. I took a trip to Colorado Springs, Pueblo, and Canon City last weekend. I really like the old parts of Colorado Springs (with the exception of the areas just south of downtown). Downtown Colorado Springs, while it could certainly improve, is a nice small city downtown. Old Colorado city is nice. Manitou Springs, while it's a tourist trap of course, is a great tourist trap. Tons of families there with little kids. Actually, Colorado Springs as a whole has a lot of charm. The far north sprawled out suburban areas by the Air Force academy, I don't really care for though.

The Springs does have some nice older areas and architecture. Unfortunately, in my opinion, the widespread pervasive proliferation of the sprawl and latter-day crap has pretty much spoiled it. Sort of like, "Well, other than THAT, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

[vegaspilgrim]

Originally Posted by sberdrow

To bad you and I couldnt have just switched pads, as you want to escape AZ, and I wanted outa Colorado. I think we both agree that CS is worth living in though. I just could not find a job to support me there. It was a major bummer. With the great weather, and beautiful mountains, CS would have been ideal. Oh well. Im getting my body ready from the intense heat. I go walking in 98 degrees for about 2 hours. I seem to be getting used to it. Now, 104 is where I draw the line on going out side. Watch out for the sun burns in Colorado, you don't even know your getting one, and WHAM you lay down in your bed and O U C H.

I've already escaped PHX. I'm happily enjoying these last few weeks in Denver before I'm off again. Next project will be figuring out how to escape LA. lol.

[sberdrow]

Originally Posted by vegaspilgrim

I've already escaped PHX. I'm happily enjoying these last few weeks in Denver before I'm off again. Next project will be figuring out how to escape LA. lol.

I thought it was Colorado that made your heart go pitter patter LA weather is boreing, No dramatics...just comfortable all day, every day, any given day. Then again, I read that Riverside (just East of LA) had a Tornado. So I guess anything can happen