I HATE this weather! (Denver, Boulder: crime, earthquake, eat)

[denverian]

Originally Posted by LBear

The Denver Chamber has gotten in trouble for their "embellishment" but they continue to do it. The "standard" that was used by the Denver Chamber of Lies is that if a 24 day had at least 1 hour of indirect sunlight (a sun beam shining between clouds), it would qualify as being a SUNNY DAY. Even though the weather stations and NOAA would NOT call that a "partly cloudy" day, NOAA would label it as a MOSTLY CLOUDY day, the Denver Chamber of lies chose to call it a sunny day.

The more people they can get to live here, the more money they make. It is a scam.

When are you leaving? Haven't you found a city where it's sunny, 75 and no wind every day of the year?

[sberdrow]

Originally Posted by denverian

Yeah, but it only hit 3 degrees twice last winter, at night. Phoenix is 100+ for months!

Personally I find both situations miserable. If it's over 100, I'm stuck inside in the A/C. If it's a high of 15, I'm also stuck inside, but with the heat on. Why can't it be sunny and 75 every day of the year???

I hear ya buddy. Its going to be 112 degrees today. Still 3 degrees cooler than my tolerance where I don't even hike out to the mail box. But its starting to sting a little. You have the nicer weather right now. However, phoenix is only 5 hours from the beach and all of its WONDERFULL weather. Thats the thing I like about this place. In Portland/Seattle where I lived for a while, if you want to escape the 9 months of overcast gloom, there was no where to go, except 800-1000 miles south to So Cal. IN order to find nice weather in the hot sticky months of Texas, I would escape to Colorado. Here in AZ, if I want snow in the winter, its a short drive to flaggstaff. If I want the beach, I have san diego any time of the year. If I want summer heat, well...I walk outside my door to the pool.

I don't actually HATE the weather there. It was just a little to unpredictable for my taste. Its real hard to plan something.

[denverian]

Originally Posted by sberdrow

I hear ya buddy. Its going to be 112 degrees today. Still 3 degrees cooler than my tolerance where I don't even hike out to the mail box. But its starting to sting a little. You have the nicer weather right now. However, phoenix is only 5 hours from the beach and all of its WONDERFULL weather. Thats the thing I like about this place. In Portland/Seattle where I lived for a while, if you want to escape the 9 months of overcast gloom, there was no where to go, except 800-1000 miles south to So Cal. IN order to find nice weather in the hot sticky months of Texas, I would escape to Colorado. Here in AZ, if I want snow in the winter, its a short drive to flaggstaff. If I want the beach, I have san diego any time of the year. If I want summer heat, well...I walk outside my door to the pool.

I don't actually HATE the weather there. It was just a little to unpredictable for my taste. Its real hard to plan something.

Flagstaff is such a breath of fresh air after you've driven through Needles in summer!

I lived many years in Orange County, CA, and I didn't even like winter there! I think you get acclimated to your climate no matter where you live. In OC, 50 rain in January felt miserable. Of course weather was very nice from about May - October, minus the "June Gloom". No place is perfect.

[Steve-o]

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Nice to see some facts thrown in, that was interesting. Im curious as to what the responses will be. I can see the "yeah but" excuses coming.

[McGowdog]

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One thing great about phoe-nix
theres less clothes on these chicks

[vegaspilgrim]

The comments by the Phoenix lovers on this forum are so idiotic they're not even worth responding to. I've actually quit the Phoenix forum once and for all shortly after I moved out, but strangely a few of those posters feel the need to lurk around this forum and post their garbage long after they've moved out. I think it's due to inner insecurities. As tfox once said, Phoenix's barbaric climate is an "acquired taste." Anyone who lives in Phoenix has no right to say what is normal. After living there four years, I have no desire to live in Phoenix ever, ever again. #1 reason there is the weather there sucks, unless you are a lizard.

#2 reason is the city bores me to tears; once you've seen downtown Tempe and Old Town Scottsdale, you've seen it all. There's very little "city" to explore there. Even when it comes to the cool ethnic strip malls I like that I posted on my recent photo tours, Denver still has more interesting stuff to offer in its most diverse pockets. sberdrow summed it up right, Phoenix is only "____ hours from _____." That's about all they have to brag about. I also find it amusing how people on their forum are so obsessed with the idea of thinking they are "west coast," when they're not. And for me anyway, Denver being <1 hour away from high elevation Rocky Mountains is a much better deal than being 5-6 hours away from beaches, and 4 hours from the Grand Canyon, but nothing other than extremely hot deserts and slightly less hotter deserts within a two hour radius. For me, cool=comfortable=clean. At least here in LA where I'm living temporarily, it cools down wonderfully at night, every night-- on par, maybe even slightly cooler than Denver's summer nights. In Phoenix you forget what it's like to feel cool for months and months at a time. Personally, I think Santa Fe, NM has the best climate in the US. Sunny and dry year round every day pretty much, hot summers, cold winters with some snow, dramatic cooling at night year round. Plus some of the prettiest high desert pinion-juniper vegetation imaginable, with beautiful mountains right there. Interestingly, guess which major US city most closely approximates the historical temperature averages for Santa Fe in almost every season (look it up on weatherbase.com if you don't believe me)? That's right-- Denver, Colorado. So while Denver doesn't have perfect weather, it's actually not all that far off. Why don't the complainers move to Phoenix and enjoy the sensation of their eyeballs smoking in that 112 degree heat. Because that's exactly how I can best describe what that feels like. I'm on Denver's team-- Go Broncos, Rockies, Nuggets, and Avs!

[Mike78613]

Originally Posted by sberdrow

I hear ya buddy. Its going to be 112 degrees today.

Please send me pictures of those eggs cooking on the sidewalk

[CosmicWizard]

I'm currently living in Grand Junction where we have a handful of triple digit highs and about 2 months of daily highs in the middle to upper 90s. Temperature wise, this is hotter than my previous location of Virginia Beach, but I am far more comfortable here than I ever was in Virginia Beach where the humidity made it feel much hotter than the actual temperature. I remember one summer when I spent a week in Phoenix. I went for a mile long walk in the middle of the afternoon in a temperature of 112. It was hot for sure, but not as bad as Virginia Beach where I mostly avoided being outdoors from 10 AM to 4 PM. That being said, I wouldn't want to live in a place where 112 was the norm for months on end. I appreciate the relative coolness of Grand Junction.

[denverian]

Originally Posted by NewAgeRedneck

I'm currently living in Grand Junction where we have a handful of triple digit highs and about 2 months of daily highs in the middle to upper 90s. Temperature wise, this is hotter than my previous location of Virginia Beach, but I am far more comfortable here than I ever was in Virginia Beach where the humidity made it feel much hotter than the actual temperature. I remember one summer when I spent a week in Phoenix. I went for a mile long walk in the middle of the afternoon in a temperature of 112. It was hot for sure, but not as bad as Virginia Beach where I mostly avoided being outdoors from 10 AM to 4 PM. That being said, I wouldn't want to live in a place where 112 was the norm for months on end. I appreciate the relative coolness of Grand Junction.

I always wondered how Denver and Grand Junction climates compared. Isn't GG a little lower in elevation? Warmer lows in the winter for all those orchards? I've only driven through it, but it looks like a beautiful area.

[TropicanaRose]

For me, the bottom line on Front Range weather is this- there is rarely a day in the year where an active person cannot happily be outdoors for a large portion of the day.

Katiana absolutely has it right. Our winters are nothing compared to the upper midwestern and Yankee winters with snow that doesn't melt from early winter to late spring! And our sun rarely disappears for more than a day.

I'm pretty concerned about growth. I think maybe we ought to hire LBear to spread his "truth" and preserve what we have left here in my home state.