I HATE this weather! (Denver: hotels, movies, legal)
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Look, I know you worship Denver, being that you named yourself after the city but let's be reasonable. To claim that Denver weather is perfect or ideal is relative to the person experiencing the weather.
I live in different states. You, are married to Denver, so you will talk it up like it is the best place out there. Mild, it is not, erratic is more like it. You get ALL WEATHER EXTREMES. If you like that, great, Denver is for you. Snow, ice, blizzards, 100F in the summer, -45F in the winter, 60MPH+ winds are common, hail, tornadoes, sleet, etc.
By the way, Denver is in tornado alley, look here...
The lying Denver Chamber of Commerce. They were caught by NOAA and told that the weather advertisements for the area, were false and manipulative. The chamber was lying in order to lure people into the area based on false weather ads. NOAA advised the Denver Chamber to stop with their false weather information.
By the way, Denver is in tornado alley, look here...
The lying Denver Chamber of Commerce. They were caught by NOAA and told that the weather advertisements for the area, were false and manipulative. The chamber was lying in order to lure people into the area based on false weather ads. NOAA advised the Denver Chamber to stop with their false weather information.
LBear, you shouldn't use nasty words like LYING. First of all, it's not very polite, and second, you yourself have been prone to... well... let's just call it "artistic license" when presenting the "facts" about Denver weather.
Especially as you yourself just posted that tornado map used to "prove" your point about Denver being in "tornado alley." I know you're trying to make us believe that that's an overall tornado frequency map, but it's not that at all -- instead, you posted the tornado probability for one single day in May 2008. (Undoubtedly the day of the F4 tornado that hit Windsor earlier this year).
As tragic as that event was for those involved, one tornado does not make "tornado alley." Every single state in the United States has been hit by tornadoes from time to time, and sadly we are not immune.
LBear, you shouldn't use nasty words like LYING. First of all, it's not very polite, and second, you yourself have been prone to... well... let's just call it "artistic license" when presenting the "facts" about Denver weather.
Especially as you yourself just posted that tornado map used to "prove" your point about Denver being in "tornado alley." I know you're trying to make us believe that that's an overall tornado frequency map, but it's not that at all -- instead, you posted the tornado probability for one single day in May 2008. (Undoubtedly the day of the F4 tornado that hit Windsor earlier this year).
As tragic as that event was for those involved, one tornado does not make "tornado alley." Every single state in the United States has been hit by tornadoes from time to time, and sadly we are not immune.
I don't want to get into a nasty argument but the Denver Chamber of Commerce are liars. I call them like I see them. They only exist for one reason, to bring in more people to the city, and therefore more $$$$. Like the 300 days of sunshine , that has been debunked years ago by NOAA, yet the Chamber keeps printing lies.
Denver is part of tornado alley. You have 2 views. One says that Denver is just west of the border of tornado alley and the other says it is part of tornado alley. Most say that just east of I-25 is the beginning of Tornado Alley. I-25 cuts through the center of Denver. Go to NOAA. Look-up tornadoes and other violent weather for Denver. The Windsor tornado basically hugged the I-25 interstate corridor and ravaged the towns along its border.
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Originally Posted by tfox
Anyway, thanks for setting the record straight with actual numbers. Sorry if my post came off as a little strong, but you did your part and clarified what you meant by your remarks. In truth, the actual numbers will prove your point amply that Denver has some crazy weather, so there's really no need to amplify. The numbers do speak for themselves.
Denver is part of tornado alley. You have 2 views. One says that Denver is just west of the border of tornado alley and the other says it is part of tornado alley. Most say that just east of I-25 is the beginning of Tornado Alley. I-25 cuts through the center of Denver. Go to NOAA. Look-up tornadoes and other violent weather for Denver. The Windsor tornado basically hugged the I-25 interstate corridor and ravaged the towns along its border.
Are you saying that the intensity and frequency of tornados are uniformly distributed over the section of the country known as tornado alley?
Weather is weather. Nothing can be done about it. But some people are just plain p*****'s no matter where they live. Heck, you got people on the LA forum complaining they think it's too cold in LA, even in a city that many consider to have a perfect climate! (Please just tell me if it gets cold in LA)
I don't want to get into a nasty argument but the Denver Chamber of Commerce are liars. I call them like I see them. They only exist for one reason, to bring in more people to the city, and therefore more $$$$. Like the 300 days of sunshine , that has been debunked years ago by NOAA, yet the Chamber keeps printing lies.
Denver is part of tornado alley. You have 2 views. One says that Denver is just west of the border of tornado alley and the other says it is part of tornado alley. Most say that just east of I-25 is the beginning of Tornado Alley. I-25 cuts through the center of Denver. Go to NOAA. Look-up tornadoes and other violent weather for Denver. The Windsor tornado basically hugged the I-25 interstate corridor and ravaged the towns along its border.
Tornadoes are the most widely feared and publicized natural hazards in Colorado. During 1996, a total of 96 tornadoes occurred in Colorado, heightening concerns that these powerful phenomenons may be increasing to cataclysmic frequencies. The metro area, in particular, serves as a site for the development of severe thunderstorms. Due to the "Denver Cyclone" effect, severe spring weather is a major concern for Denver. These storms create cloud to ground lightning strikes, heavy rain with flooding potential, severe hail, and tornadoes. On June 15, 1988, a group of tornadoes passed over the metro area. Two areas of the city suffered heavy damage due to tornado touch downs. On June 2, 1993, an F-1 rated tornado struck Denver. According to the National Weather Service, there have been 11 tornado touch downs in Denver between 1950 and 1989. The Fujita scale rates intensity of tornadoes with F0 for weak storms with wind rotation below 73 mph, and F5 for violent storms with rotation speeds of 261 to 318 mph. Fortunately, the tornadoes in the Denver area are usually rated F0 to F1 (with rotation speeds of 73 to 112 mph). While the tornadoes that occur in Denver are relatively weak compared to those in the Mid-West, the potential for injury, loss of life and property damage remains high. Most injuries that occur in these events are the result of flying debris, especially broken glass. The tornado threat is with us every spring, and is extremely high during the months of May, June and July. The intensity of these events and the potential for damages and injury should not be underestimated.
IMO the I-25 is a good boundary line, I have only seen 1 tornado touch down West of the I-25 about 20 years ago. East of the I-25 would be a different story.
I'm lauging at Lbears seeming desire to measure E-peens -- to the point of belittling and berating (over weather mind you) and in fact depending on how you measure it -- and if you bother to read beyond the headlines Denver does have 300 days of sunshine.
Grasping at straws by pointing out anomilies and ignoring averages to make a point makes me wonder if perhaps Lbear works for the Bush adminstration?
A fellow Colorado resident for over 40 years. I believe he says it best about the TRUE weather of Denver...
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Originally Posted by jazzlover
I've been studying Colorado climate and weather for over 40 years now. Colorado climate has many positive points, but being consistent, benign, and continually mild are not among them. That's just a fact. Sorry if that does not coincide with the Chamber of Commerce drivel that implies otherwise. By the way, unlike a lot of other posters on this forum, I accept Colorado's climate for what it is. A lot of people who move here can't, and--after a few years--they move on. I also don't put a lot of stock in the posts from people who have lived here for one or two seasons, or in one or two places in Colorado (or never lived here at all), then profess to know everything about the climate of this state. I have lived all over Colorado for over a half-century, and traveled just about every square mile of it. So, when I describe the climate of a location in Colorado, it isn't only because I've read it in the climatic records--I've usually been there to experience it personally, often many times. I've also personally observed just about every type of extreme weather event in the state at one time or another--tornadoes, floods, blizzards, avalanches, forest fires--all of it.
No, I don't work for the Chamber of Commerce, and promoting Colorado for tourism or otherwise is not my duty. What I generally post is the reality--albeit sometimes sort of harsh--of what Colorado can be truly like. If people want their sanitized versions of this place, or the propaganda hype, they can skip my posts and move right on to Colorado.com or countless other websites that will be glad to espouse the "everything is wonderful" party line.
Grasping at straws by pointing out anomilies and ignoring averages to make a point makes me wonder if perhaps Lbear works for the Bush adminstration?
Being that you married Denver (as you took on its maiden name), and you are turning this into a "political" issue, I will say these few words to you.
If you keep smoking that stuff you smoke, you will start to see unicorns.
Fellow Denver residents DISAGREE with you and point out that Denver's weather as "but being consistent, benign, and continually mild are not among them. That's just a fact. Sorry if that does not coincide with the Chamber of Commerce drivel that implies otherwise."
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, that has been debunked years ago by NOAA, yet the Chamber keeps printing lies. 
