Race relations in Denver? (Holly: living, cost of living, military)
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Denver: I see it more often in certain burbs. Come up to Thornton, when I see a black and they see me, it looks like they are saying to themselves, omg, there's another one like me!!! (haha)
Seriously, some burbs in Denver are very white, others more diverse in ethnicity.
To Pilot: I don't think it's a western thing, maybe more of a mid-western thing, although I say that and think of Chicago and Oklahoma and think well, maybe not! But really, just certain areas/states.
Actually my office is in Thornton, but most days I work from home. I noticed at a King Soopers up there on 88th (or is it 84th?) that everyone seemed to be either old and white, or Hispanic. I definitely noticed a different vibe from our King Soopers at 28th and Quebec. Our KS is very busy, and filled with people who are black, Hispanic, then you have your crunchy granolas, yuppies, gay people, some Asians, and a lot of bi-racial couples. I generally don't leave the office and explore Thornton when I'm there, but it seems to have a large Hispanic population.
I should have been more specific; I totally agree with you about the Hispanic population around 88th/84th. Farther up, the KS on 120th and Colo. is nearly all white. I really don't recall ever seeing an asian, a hippy or a black. Every once in awhile I see a Hispanic. Mostly old and white. So I suppose it differs as to where you are in Thornton. They just finished building the Rancho Liborio that used to be (I think they closed the other one?) in Commerce City. That definitely brings a lot of Hispanics to the area (and me because omg their tacos are delish and it's the only place I can find good, homemade masa).
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Actually my office is in Thornton, but most days I work from home. I noticed at a King Soopers up there on 88th (or is it 84th?) that everyone seemed to be either old and white, or Hispanic. I definitely noticed a different vibe from our King Soopers at 28th and Quebec. Our KS is very busy, and filled with people who are black, Hispanic, then you have your crunchy granolas, yuppies, gay people, some Asians, and a lot of bi-racial couples. I generally don't leave the office and explore Thornton when I'm there, but it seems to have a large Hispanic population.
I should have been more specific; I totally agree with you about the Hispanic population around 88th/84th. Farther up, the KS on 120th and Colo. is nearly all white. I really don't recall ever seeing an asian, a hippy or a black. Every once in awhile I see a Hispanic. Mostly old and white. So I suppose it differs as to where you are in Thornton. They just finished building the Rancho Liborio that used to be (I think they closed the other one?) in Commerce City. That definitely brings a lot of Hispanics to the area (and me because omg their tacos are delish and it's the only place I can find good, homemade masa).
So the moral of the story is, that if you want to know who lives in a neighborhood, check out the closest King Soopers! I always found the "Queen Soopers" on Cap. Hill to be very interesting. Where else will you see a drag queen shopping for groceries?
No kidding! And not a bad idea actually. We feel like we sort of made a mistake by buying where we are. There were several things we should have considered more, things like mass transit are a big deal for me. I used to live right by Queen Soopers. My then-DH and I waited tables downtown, actually he was a bartender, I was a waittress. Anyway, we'd go shopping around 2am and that was so much fun! It's easier to shop too with no one around.
So for my next move, I'll swing by the grocery stores!!
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Originally Posted by denverian
So the moral of the story is, that if you want to know who lives in a neighborhood, check out the closest King Soopers! I always found the "Queen Soopers" on Cap. Hill to be very interesting. Where else will you see a drag queen shopping for groceries?
Before buying my house I drove through the areas I thought I'd be interested in so I could look at the vehicles people drove. I think the vehicles you see parked in the neighborhoods can tell you a lot about the neighborhood. It's best to do it around 6 or 7, after most people are home from work, but while it's still light out.
I think it stands true for most places in the country.
If you're seeing a lot of older cars, peeling paint, body damage, etc then the neighborhood tends to have a lower income level. Which in turn tends to have the higher crime, lower housing values, and less maintained yards.
If you see a lot of pick up trucks, vans, 5-10 year old cars, 'normal' sized houses, decently maintained yards, etc. Then it's probably more middle class, blue collar workers.
If you see more larger newer pickups, a mix between those 5-10 year old cars with some brand new ones thrown in there. Might even see a couple newer BMWs, Mercedes, or some Cadillacs. Then you're probably in a middle to upper middle class neighborhood that's going to have a pretty even mix between blue and white collar workers.
If you're seeing all BMWs, porche's, Mercedes, Cadillacs, some Corvettes, a Viper, etc. Then I think you know where you are because the driveways are going to be 1/2 mile long and you probably had to go through a gate to get into the neighborhood. Or if you don't see any cars, but everyone has 3+ car garages... you're in the same place.
The nice thing about this (well nice in my mind, maybe not everyone's though)... is that you can't tell what color, religion, sexual orientation, or any of that other crap about people that shouldn't matter. But it lets you find an area that will fit your income level and will probably have a lot in common with your neighbors.
Zionver: Actually that's awesome advice. I'm not interested in race or what not when finding a place to live or buy. What you mentioned about unkept lawns, etc. is what I'm much more interested in, especially where I buy. So for my next move, it's grocery stores AND cars in driveways!!!
Hi everyone - I am a single white female, age 40 and I'm seriously thinking about moving to Denver. I've visited Colorado for years and love it from a tourist perspective, but I don't have a good sense of the community.
I grew up in an upper-middle class suburb of Detroit and I can't deal with the racial issues here anymore. I have been the victim of crime three times in the past two years, and I've just had enough. I need to move somewhere where I feel safe. So I'm going to apologize ahead of time for this question, but I need to know the racial climate in Denver. I just don't have it in my anymore to deal with the tension, hostility, crime, and violence in Detroit. Does Denver have "ghettos" like Detroit?
I know this is a tough, touchy question to ask, and I apologize. But I would appreciate honest answers.
If you want to leave a city because of high crime, I understand. I was the victim of a crime myself. What I would like for you to elaborate on is what part of it had to do with race? I am wondering.
As for Denver, I'm not going to say Denver is perfect. Each city has some kind of prejudice no matter what. Even Denver had some problems. Comparing to Detroit, though, Denver isn't nearly as violent as Detroit. The last time I checked Denver was rated as one of the top ten cities for interracial couples. I would say take a chance on Denver.
As for ghettoes, each city has some form of a ghetto, but crime is lower in Denver. The best thing I can suggest is take a visit for yourself.
Excellent question. Actually, I believe that race is not a top determinator of crime, nor is class. It is much deeper than that.
Unfortunately, the OP has left us here to argue. Or maybe that's fortunately**!
**I'm a strong proponent of free speech and intelligent discussion!!
Oh yes. There much that needs to be answered.
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