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Old 12-11-2008, 10:11 AM
 
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Zion: Yeah, that's my biggest beef w/flights in Denver. Your number is the magic one, for pretty much anywhere cool. lol. Brazil is even more. India, forget it. I can hardly get to Panama for less than $800. But if I was leaving from a major city close to the coast.... well you know, I want it all. lol. Actually I want Miami.
Flying overseas is something I've done a fair amount of, and pricing of overseas tickets is still a bewildering process, especially to Asia. Basically the airlines have two major target markets for those seats: the American business traveler and the ethnic population returning "home" to visit families. The latter group is extremely price sensitive and the former doesn't even buy their own tickets, so they're not price sensitive at all. So, the end result is that the airlines jack the ticket prices up high through conventional channels. But, at the same time, they then have this shadowy secondary market by selling consolidated tickets to ethnic travel agents who then market them to the price conscious ethnic market. They mostly advertise in ethnic publications, on the internet, and sometimes in the tiny ads you see in the travel section of the paper. It almost seems like there is an unwritten understanding that the ethnic consolidators aren't allowed to market themselves TOO well or make it TOO easy to find them. The airlines definitely don't want to cannibalize their high-margin business sales.
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Old 12-11-2008, 10:21 AM
 
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tfox: Bewildering is right! I kind of had this feel of what you are talking about (the two groups of travelers) but didn't really know it for sure. So have you traveled via the "ethnic" way?

I know this guy from Cambodia who just went home. He said he took his family to Angkor Wat and also to see the killing fields (he was actually around then). They were so poor they'd never been able to visit. Anyway, my thoughts were, how the heck does this guy afford to get there? He works in a liquor store, and no way could he afford the ticket that I've seen. What you said sure explains a lot.

Traveling south of the U.S. is much easier. Plus, I like the heat and humidity and the latin culture. But one of these years I'll make my way to Asia.
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Old 12-11-2008, 02:13 PM
 
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tfox: Bewildering is right! I kind of had this feel of what you are talking about (the two groups of travelers) but didn't really know it for sure. So have you traveled via the "ethnic" way?
I have, but it's been a while. I can't really recommend any specific travel agents, and most are very touch and go anyway. The travel section of a big-city newspaper in NY, Chi, or Miami is a good source, look for the small ads. Locally, you can try newspapers like the "Himalayan News" which targets Nepalis and Indians, for example -- clearly those would be narrowly focused on flights to South Asia. Best thing is if you know some nationals of the country you're going to; they probably have some good referrals for you.
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Old 12-11-2008, 02:43 PM
 
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I've talked to some people who are locals of say, india, but never really pressed them as to how they afforded the trip or if they got good deals. I'll ask next time I'm in the Indian grocery store. Thanks for the pointers!
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Old 12-11-2008, 03:02 PM
 
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I wonder if the TAs they might use would see a honky like me and not give me as good of a deal as an 'ethnic' person? It's pretty obvious that I'm probably not from China or India or anywhere besides the states... Even some states would probably prefer to not claim me :-D
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Old 12-11-2008, 03:08 PM
 
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I wonder if the TAs they might use would see a honky like me and not give me as good of a deal as an 'ethnic' person? It's pretty obvious that I'm probably not from China or India or anywhere besides the states... Even some states would probably prefer to not claim me :-D
Depends on how much they like you? Of course, even if they charge you a bit of hidden "honky tax," it still may be a better deal than what you'd get elsewhere.
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Old 12-11-2008, 03:12 PM
 
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"honky tax"
rotfl!!!
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Old 12-11-2008, 03:14 PM
 
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Okayyy. Lucky me, I'm ethnic. So no honky tax.

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Depends on how much they like you? Of course, even if they charge you a bit of hidden "honky tax," it still may be a better deal than what you'd get elsewhere.
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Old 12-11-2008, 03:38 PM
 
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That d@mn honky tax gets me everytime too. I guess that's what they mean when they say " + applicable taxes" It's really the " $99 + the white bread honky tax = $1499 + the normal taxes"
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Old 12-11-2008, 03:46 PM
 
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Actually, I think what gets people is the "ugly american" tax. You can pretty much spot them a mile away.
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