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03-26-2009, 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by dubthang
Anybody can steal your info (whether wireless or not) if they have the right programs. Somebody can secure their WIFI, but a simple packet sniffing program can break the encription easily. Using the internet is never 100% safe. That's the price of convenience.
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Sounds like we got ourselves another script kiddie!
Well, sometimes the pray might just be the hunter, have you ever heard of the term 'honeycomb'? 
Let's just say, I knew some hackers who would have a 'wide open' Wi-Fi for their sneaky, semi-smart neighbors to connect to which in return would actually open their PC for their enjoyment. 
But unless you are war-driving, chances of running into one of those honeycombs are pretty slim.....or is it not? 
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03-27-2009, 12:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dubthang
Anybody can steal your info (whether wireless or not) if they have the right programs. Somebody can secure their WIFI, but a simple packet sniffing program can break the encription easily. Using the internet is never 100% safe. That's the price of convenience.
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WEP is easily broken. WPA with a good passphase is NOT. SSL connections (such as to your online bank or Amazon's checkout page) are also very strongly encrypted and not breakable within our lifetimes given today's computation power. Email can be secure or insecure. Most ISP's do not require SSL between your client (Outlook, Thunderbird, Windows Mail, etc) and the server so everything being transmitted, including your email password, is sent in the clear. Check with your ISP to see if their servers support SSL and what the settings are.
Web mail can be secure if the host supports it and you enable it. For example, if you use Gmail and point your browser to www.gmail.com, your logon will be secure, but your actual session will not be. That means the emails you're reading could be seen by someone nearby sniffing the wireless traffic. If you explicitly request a secure connection by pointing to http s://mail.google.com, your connection will remain secure so no one can intercept it.
General web surfing is usually not secure so if you're on an open wifi connection or a poorly secured one, such as a WEP secured network, your surfing could be monitored.
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03-27-2009, 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by EscapeCalifornia
WEP is easily broken. WPA with a good passphase is NOT.
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Not to stray further off-topic but is WPA2 more secure than just WPA?
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03-27-2009, 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Legs1357
Not to stray further off-topic but is WPA2 more secure than just WPA?
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Not as far as I know. The key with WPA(2) is to use a good, long, unguessable passphrase that's not in the dictionary. Make it look like a couple of cats walked all over your keyboard and no one's going to break it before the sun runs out of hydrogen.
Something like one of these beasts would be ideal but since you're not going to be able to enter it easily, all of your wifi devices would have to support entering the key via cut and paste from a txt file. Even if you don't go with one of these crazy passphrases, the closer you can get yours to looking like that, the better.
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03-27-2009, 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by EscapeCalifornia
Not as far as I know. The key with WPA(2) is to use a good, long, unguessable passphrase that's not in the dictionary. Make it look like a couple of cats walked all over your keyboard and no one's going to break it before the sun runs out of hydrogen.
Something like one of these beasts would be ideal but since you're not going to be able to enter it easily, all of your wifi devices would have to support entering the key via cut and paste from a txt file. Even if you don't go with one of these crazy passphrases, the closer you can get yours to looking like that, the better.
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Well life is good then  . Plus, this is good info for lots of people to know 
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05-06-2009, 10:15 AM
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I am moving to Broomfield at the end of this month, I currently run Lenox on my computer and I'm having a hard time finding a service out there that supports Lenox. Does anyone have any helpful info on this?
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05-06-2009, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by rwehmeier
I am moving to Broomfield at the end of this month, I currently run Lenox on my computer and I'm having a hard time finding a service out there that supports Lenox. Does anyone have any helpful info on this?
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Are you sure you mean Lenox and not Linux? In the event you're talking about Linux, you could ask them to come out and install it and set up the network configuration yourself, which generally happens when you plug the ethernet cable into your computer. If they won't install it without needing to connect to your computer, and won't install it on a computer running anything but mac or windows maybe have a friend show up with a laptop running windows or macOS, have them set it up on there and then just plug it into your computer. Good luck
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05-06-2009, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by WhyTee
Are you sure you mean Lenox and not Linux? In the event you're talking about Linux, you could ask them to come out and install it and set up the network configuration yourself, which generally happens when you plug the ethernet cable into your computer. If they won't install it without needing to connect to your computer, and won't install it on a computer running anything but mac or windows maybe have a friend show up with a laptop running windows or macOS, have them set it up on there and then just plug it into your computer. Good luck
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Yup, Linux. Thank you!!!
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05-06-2009, 03:39 PM
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Just tell them you have a Windows PC. The installer won't give a crap and besides, his job is to get the modem to sync with their network, not troubleshoot your computer even if it were Windows. Once he gets the modem to sync, plug your computer it and DHCP will do the rest.
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05-07-2009, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by EscapeCalifornia
Just tell them you have a Windows PC. The installer won't give a crap and besides, his job is to get the modem to sync with their network, not troubleshoot your computer even if it were Windows. Once he gets the modem to sync, plug your computer it and DHCP will do the rest.
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I tried that once with Comcast and their network never synced up with my computer, yet they still charged me for a month worth of internet service. So far Comcast is the only network I've been able to find in the Broomfield area. I'd rather not deal with Comcast agian.
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