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Denver: k-12 education, teacher, college, university, downtown.

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Old 02-13-2009, 02:34 PM
 
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We are relocating to Denver this summer and would like to live close to or in the city, in an older, historic neighborhood that is pedestrian friendly. We dislike driving, so would also like to be along the light rail.

However, the most important consideration for us is the quality of our kids schools.

Suggestions on neighborhoods would be greatly appreciated!
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Old 02-17-2009, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Lower East Side, Milwaukee, WI
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We are relocating to Denver this summer and would like to live close to or in the city, in an older, historic neighborhood that is pedestrian friendly. We dislike driving, so would also like to be along the light rail.

However, the most important consideration for us is the quality of our kids schools.

Suggestions on neighborhoods would be greatly appreciated!
The light rail doesn't really run through the older, denser parts of the city. Washington Park or University of Denver (DU) would be you only choices that offered historic neighborhoods that are pedestrian friendly.

As far as K-12 education is concerned, Coloradans could give a crap about things like public education and social programs for the elderly, sick, or needy. Much of which can be blamed upon the Tax Payers Bill Of Rights also known as TABOR.

Here's some stats from the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities:

TABOR Has Contributed to Declines in Colorado K-12 Education Funding

• Under TABOR, Colorado declined from 35th to 49th in the nation in K-12 spending as a percentage of personal income.

• Colorado’s average per-pupil funding fell by more than $400 relative to the national average.

• Colorado’s average teacher salary compared to average pay in other occupations declined from 30th to 50th in the nation.

TABOR Has Played a Major Role in the Significant Cuts Made in Higher Education Funding

• Under TABOR, higher education funding per resident student dropped by 31 percent after adjusting for inflation.

• College and university funding as a share of personal income declined from 35th to 48th in the nation.

• Tuitions have risen as a result. In the last four years, system-wide resident tuition increased by 21 percent (adjusting for inflation).

TABOR Has Led to Drops in Funding for Public Health Programs

• Under TABOR, Colorado declined from 23rd to 48th in the nation in the percentage of pregnant women receiving adequate access to prenatal care, as defined by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

• Colorado plummeted from 24th to 50th in the nation in the share of children receiving their full vaccinations. Only by investing additional funds in immunization programs was Colorado able to improve its ranking to 43rd in 2004.

• At one point, from April 2001 to October 2002, funding got so low that the state suspended its requirement that school children be fully vaccinated against diphtheria, tetanus, and pertussis (whooping cough) because Colorado, unlike other states, could not afford to buy the vaccine.

TABOR Has Hindered Colorado’s Ability to Address the Lack of Medical Insurance Coverage for Many Children and Adults in the State

• Under TABOR, the share of low-income children lacking health insurance has doubled in Colorado, even as it has fallen in the nation as a whole. Colorado now ranks last among the 50 states on this measure.
• TABOR has also affected healthcare for adults. Colorado has fallen from 20th to 48th for the percentage of low-income non-elderly adults covered under health insurance.

• In 2002, Colorado ranked 49th in the nation in both the percentage of low-income non-elderly adults and low-income children covered by Medicaid.
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Old 02-17-2009, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Canon City, Colorado
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I see Jacob is rearing his head AGAIN!!!!
You lump everyone in the same package...don't you??
Coloradans don't care about public education and so on....you are very strange and prejudiced. I am very very happy you don't live here.
Scaring people into moving to where you live isn't going to work too well either.
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Old 02-17-2009, 01:59 PM
 
Location: The 719
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And here's some facts about that misleading 2005 report.

BTW JJacobeclark, how you doing with the TOS on only citing a maximum of two sentences?

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Downtown Littleton is on light rail, has historic homes and supposedly has good schools...
I like downtown Littleton. But don't take my "word" for it;






Just a short trip down Santa Fe to a great steak place!


I have some other Denver Metro photo tours and throughout Colorado and road trip to California here.

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Old 02-17-2009, 02:03 PM
 
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Downtown Littleton is on light rail, has historic homes and supposedly has good schools. Arvada is supposed to get light rail at some point. The downtown area has historic homes and I've heard positive things about the schools.
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Old 02-17-2009, 02:08 PM
 
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Price range?
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Old 02-18-2009, 12:44 AM
 
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TABOR Has Contributed to Declines in Colorado K-12 Education Funding
If that's the trade-off for having a business-friendly tax climate, I'll take it! Those statistics are split into little segments to the point of being meaningless. Very little about the overall populace in any of that. Just a bunch of propaganda.

You act as if spending has much correlation with classroom performance, anyway.

Might want to consider how much less nations like Singapore and Hungary spend as a percent of their GDP and how badly they mutilate the US in areas like math and science.
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Old 02-18-2009, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Lower East Side, Milwaukee, WI
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If that's the trade-off for having a business-friendly tax climate, I'll take it!
Nice trade-off. Good jobs. Stupid kids.

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You act as if spending has much correlation with classroom performance, anyway.
You get what you pay for.

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Might want to consider how much less nations like Singapore and Hungary spend as a percent of their GDP and how badly they mutilate the US in areas like math and science.
NationMaster - Education Statistics
Singapore spends 11.49 % of GDP on primary education and 18.16% of GDP on secondary education. Hungary spends 21.93 % on primary and 26.77 % on secondary. U.S. spends 21.51 % on primary and 25.85 % on secondary. Hungary actually spends more per student than the U.S. does.
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Old 02-18-2009, 10:16 AM
 
Location: RSM
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You get what you pay for.
tell that to the tax payers in california.
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Old 02-18-2009, 11:43 AM
 
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Price range?
We are pretty flexible on price. Probably wouldn't want to go over $1.5m though. We dumped our homes in Phoenix and Orlando in 2006 at their peak price and did well on those. Been renting through the slump. We figure it might be time to buy again later this year.
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