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Old 06-13-2007, 01:57 AM
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To dougindenverI'll assume that you are sincere in saying "no offense".

Of course I have looked at a map. (mainly google, hybrid, traffic, street views, the many atlases I own, elevation maps, population maps, etc.). I even got to zoom in close enough to look at the building I might be working in. I got to zoom in to Washington park and all of the other areas I mentioned. I have not found a site that shows me live traffic yet (although I would love to know the web address if anyone does). In some places a short stretch on a map can take a very long time to drive because of traffic or other unforseen happenings. Only a local would know that. Only someone who has driven that route would know exactly what it is like to drive that route. For instance you mentioned that "Its 10 minutes to downtown". Is that 10 minutes during heavy traffice, slow traffice, or can you always count on that being 10 minutes? Does a 10 minute drive in the area always translate into the same milage everytime, everywhere? Is the route often under construction? That can translate into delays. Only someone with first hand experience can tell you something like this. A map does not, or at least not that I have found yet.
I have researched newspapers not just in the dnever area, but throughout colorado. I look at craigslist everyday. I have looked at patterns in changing rental prices. I have watched the changes in the housing market, to see how they will affect the renter's market. I have looked at price differences between car dealerships (between the denver area and the places I have lived).
I engage people in my field of work that I meet from Denver and the denver area to talk to them about their personal opinions. I ask them questions because there are different views depending on the lens they are looking through. I love their varied opinions and experience. You can live in a place for years and suddenly find out there is a very cool or interesting place you never went to, just becasue your experiences hadn't led you there yet.

As far as your statement "But Denver, depending on where yuo live now-is not cheap.", obviously, it is all relative. I am looking to save money. I want to buy a house. I am financially able to afford a 3000 rent every month, but that doesn't mean I want to spend it. I would rather save 2000 and try to find the rare denver rent of 1000. I want to save money, I want to buy a house.

I ask questions such as "Can you drink the tap water"
How am I supposed to research something like that over the internet and in books? I mean I can look up flouride levels and such, but I still can't poor myself a glass of glendale water (or the should have been part of denver glass of water to some of you folks). As a little side note, I would like to add that it is profitable in my situation that glendale is not technically a part of denver. I make money because of that. Most people it seems feel differently about it, so I like to hear the view to better formulate my own, and understand their's.
The internet or maps can't tell me how they 'feel' about denver.

I could go on and on about what research I have done on every sigle question I asked above, but I am trying to find helpful information from people with experience, such as yourself.

Please understand that I do feel slightly attacked by your assumptions that I would lie about doing research on a place, and that you would try to then disarm me with words like "no offense". On the other hand I can appreciate your input on a cup of coffee.


To EugeneBKLYN the threadjacker
I do not live in denver obviously, so I can not answer your question. When I looked up the races in denver it said White Non-Hispanic (52.4%)
Hispanic (27.4%)
Black (9.7%)
Other race (9.1%)
Two or more races (5.8%)
Chinese (1.8%)
American Indian (1.7%)
Other Asian (1.5%)
Asian Indian (0.9%)
Korean (0.7%)
Vietnamese (0.7%)
You will have to take cil's word for it

To xxman777, tfox, 2bindenver
Thank you for your kind and informative responses, and taking your time to help me.

Again, I am a sincere person in need or first hand experience and advice.
Any questions you can answer or opinions you are willing to part with will not not go unappreciated.
I just want to get back to the mountains.

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Old 06-13-2007, 07:25 AM
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Old 06-13-2007, 09:59 AM
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To dougindenverI'll assume that you are sincere in saying "no offense".

Of course I have looked at a map. (mainly google, hybrid, traffic, street views, the many atlases I own, elevation maps, population maps, etc.). I even got to zoom in close enough to look at the building I might be working in. I got to zoom in to Washington park and all of the other areas I mentioned. I have not found a site that shows me live traffic yet (although I would love to know the web address if anyone does). In some places a short stretch on a map can take a very long time to drive because of traffic or other unforseen happenings. Only a local would know that. Only someone who has driven that route would know exactly what it is like to drive that route. For instance you mentioned that "Its 10 minutes to downtown". Is that 10 minutes during heavy traffice, slow traffice, or can you always count on that being 10 minutes? Does a 10 minute drive in the area always translate into the same milage everytime, everywhere? Is the route often under construction? That can translate into delays. Only someone with first hand experience can tell you something like this. A map does not, or at least not that I have found yet.
I have researched newspapers not just in the dnever area, but throughout colorado. I look at craigslist everyday. I have looked at patterns in changing rental prices. I have watched the changes in the housing market, to see how they will affect the renter's market. I have looked at price differences between car dealerships (between the denver area and the places I have lived).
I engage people in my field of work that I meet from Denver and the denver area to talk to them about their personal opinions. I ask them questions because there are different views depending on the lens they are looking through. I love their varied opinions and experience. You can live in a place for years and suddenly find out there is a very cool or interesting place you never went to, just becasue your experiences hadn't led you there yet.

As far as your statement "But Denver, depending on where yuo live now-is not cheap.", obviously, it is all relative. I am looking to save money. I want to buy a house. I am financially able to afford a 3000 rent every month, but that doesn't mean I want to spend it. I would rather save 2000 and try to find the rare denver rent of 1000. I want to save money, I want to buy a house.

I ask questions such as "Can you drink the tap water"
How am I supposed to research something like that over the internet and in books? I mean I can look up flouride levels and such, but I still can't poor myself a glass of glendale water (or the should have been part of denver glass of water to some of you folks). As a little side note, I would like to add that it is profitable in my situation that glendale is not technically a part of denver. I make money because of that. Most people it seems feel differently about it, so I like to hear the view to better formulate my own, and understand their's.
The internet or maps can't tell me how they 'feel' about denver.

I could go on and on about what research I have done on every sigle question I asked above, but I am trying to find helpful information from people with experience, such as yourself.

Please understand that I do feel slightly attacked by your assumptions that I would lie about doing research on a place, and that you would try to then disarm me with words like "no offense". On the other hand I can appreciate your input on a cup of coffee.


To EugeneBKLYN the threadjacker
I do not live in denver obviously, so I can not answer your question. When I looked up the races in denver it said White Non-Hispanic (52.4%)
Hispanic (27.4%)
Black (9.7%)
Other race (9.1%)
Two or more races (5.8%)
Chinese (1.8%)
American Indian (1.7%)
Other Asian (1.5%)
Asian Indian (0.9%)
Korean (0.7%)
Vietnamese (0.7%)
You will have to take cil's word for it

To xxman777, tfox, 2bindenver
Thank you for your kind and informative responses, and taking your time to help me.

Again, I am a sincere person in need or first hand experience and advice.
Any questions you can answer or opinions you are willing to part with will not not go unappreciated.
I just want to get back to the mountains.
I was mostly serious not because of any specific question, but because you seemed to have formed the impression that Glendale was a "town" that had it's own personalilty and it's own identity and might have lots of greenery etc, which I would think talking to anyone who has ever seen it or even Google Earth would correct that impression quickly.

As for traffic, the News stations 4,7 & 9 as well as the Colorado Dept of Trans, CDOT, have traffic cams on their web sites, though I'm not sure there is one on that stretch of Colorado Blvd. But I drive it all the time, and it is probably my least favorite street in the city, but if you live on that side of town you will drive it a lot. It's is perhaps the busiest surface street in the whole city. At least as busy as any. It's slow. but not really stop and go. It moves ok most times. It's not a crappy street - it's not cheap used car dealers and pawn shops - that's Federal Boulevard in West Denver - it's banks and Mercedes and BMW snd Saab dealers, and Barnes and Noble and a Whole Foods upscale grocery. So for an endless commercial strip, it's moslty a nice endless commercial strip.

As for the "feel" of Denver, that I can help you with plenty - neighborhood by nieghborhood - and I work downtown, but you asked about the feel of Glendale. If you have ever stood in the parking lot of a Best Buy, Home Depot or Target, or been to the part of any large city where those sorts of stores are lined up next each other, broken up only by car dealers, TGI Fridays or Chili's, then you know the feel of Glendale as well as anyone in Denver. Seriously.

If you find a rental house or apartment, post the address or street and I'll tell you what the area is like.

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Old 06-13-2007, 10:24 AM
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To dougindenverI'll assume that you are sincere in saying "no offense".

Of course I have looked at a map. (mainly google, hybrid, traffic, street views, the many atlases I own, elevation maps, population maps, etc.). I even got to zoom in close enough to look at the building I might be working in. I got to zoom in to Washington park and all of the other areas I mentioned. I have not found a site that shows me live traffic yet (although I would love to know the web address if anyone does). In some places a short stretch on a map can take a very long time to drive because of traffic or other unforseen happenings. Only a local would know that. Only someone who has driven that route would know exactly what it is like to drive that route. For instance you mentioned that "Its 10 minutes to downtown". Is that 10 minutes during heavy traffice, slow traffice, or can you always count on that being 10 minutes? Does a 10 minute drive in the area always translate into the same milage everytime, everywhere? Is the route often under construction? That can translate into delays. Only someone with first hand experience can tell you something like this. A map does not, or at least not that I have found yet.
I have researched newspapers not just in the dnever area, but throughout colorado. I look at craigslist everyday. I have looked at patterns in changing rental prices. I have watched the changes in the housing market, to see how they will affect the renter's market. I have looked at price differences between car dealerships (between the denver area and the places I have lived).
I engage people in my field of work that I meet from Denver and the denver area to talk to them about their personal opinions. I ask them questions because there are different views depending on the lens they are looking through. I love their varied opinions and experience. You can live in a place for years and suddenly find out there is a very cool or interesting place you never went to, just becasue your experiences hadn't led you there yet.

As far as your statement "But Denver, depending on where yuo live now-is not cheap.", obviously, it is all relative. I am looking to save money. I want to buy a house. I am financially able to afford a 3000 rent every month, but that doesn't mean I want to spend it. I would rather save 2000 and try to find the rare denver rent of 1000. I want to save money, I want to buy a house.

I ask questions such as "Can you drink the tap water"
How am I supposed to research something like that over the internet and in books? I mean I can look up flouride levels and such, but I still can't poor myself a glass of glendale water (or the should have been part of denver glass of water to some of you folks). As a little side note, I would like to add that it is profitable in my situation that glendale is not technically a part of denver. I make money because of that. Most people it seems feel differently about it, so I like to hear the view to better formulate my own, and understand their's.
The internet or maps can't tell me how they 'feel' about denver.

I could go on and on about what research I have done on every sigle question I asked above, but I am trying to find helpful information from people with experience, such as yourself.

Please understand that I do feel slightly attacked by your assumptions that I would lie about doing research on a place, and that you would try to then disarm me with words like "no offense". On the other hand I can appreciate your input on a cup of coffee.


To EugeneBKLYN the threadjacker
I do not live in denver obviously, so I can not answer your question. When I looked up the races in denver it said White Non-Hispanic (52.4%)
Hispanic (27.4%)
Black (9.7%)
Other race (9.1%)
Two or more races (5.8%)
Chinese (1.8%)
American Indian (1.7%)
Other Asian (1.5%)
Asian Indian (0.9%)
Korean (0.7%)
Vietnamese (0.7%)
You will have to take cil's word for it

To xxman777, tfox, 2bindenver
Thank you for your kind and informative responses, and taking your time to help me.

Again, I am a sincere person in need or first hand experience and advice.
Any questions you can answer or opinions you are willing to part with will not not go unappreciated.
I just want to get back to the mountains.
One more thing - Google has a brand new feature called "Street view". Denver is one city already on it, and Colorado Blvd is one street in Denver outside downtown that is fully covered. So you can take a virtual drive right through Glendale, though the photo quality is not great, and the fisheye view makes everything seem smaller and more spread out than it actually is.

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Old 06-13-2007, 05:20 PM
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My mistake EugeneBKLYN. I wonder why the russian community has established itself there and how they have changed the dynamic of the area. Is it just in Glendale?

dougindenver
Where I live, and have lived, each neighborhood, suburb, and outlying towns all have their own personality and identity. Only a few miles away from where I live, there is a very different feel and grouping of people living there. Unfortunetely I think this may be due to economic and racial differences. I thought perhaps this may be the case in Denver. I thought glendale may be different from other neighborhoods and have a personality of its own. From what you have said, I gather it is a big box neighborhood. Glendale looked green to me (but I am in the desert right now, so anything looks greener at the moment). I especially liked the lakes and parks I saw nearby, but I am not sure if they are actually in glendale. I wonder if people work at keeping their lawns landscaped beautifully in the area. I know you said there are not many rental houses in the area, but is there an affordable area you can recommend I look into.

As far as the traffic cams go, I guess I will have to try the library's computers. For some reason the pictures are not coming up on my computer. Are they moving picture cams, or time lapsed?
Thank goodness it is not stop and go traffic, even if it is busy.

I was glad to see whole foods mentioned. There are no organic stores here, so I always try to go to the farmer's market in the summer months.

I love the google street view, when I can get it to work. I'll have to try to take a virtual drive around the area.

What parts of denver have you lived, or do you live in? Did you choose the area for a specific reason? I actually might be working in downtown denver, too, near the convention center if I don't end up liking the location in glendale. I won't decide that for sure until I can actually visit. I will only have one week of actual visiting time before I have to decide. That is very little time to see the area so I want to make sure I hit up all the right spots. Do you enjoy working in downtown denver?

Anyway sorry for all the mountains of questions, but this is the best place I can find to ask them.

Thanks for getting back to me.

Oh and one more thing. What do you think the city's general view is on cats? I have cats and have yet to find many cities that are very accepting. I would love to take them out on walks in strollers and eat at the balcony of restaurants with them, but not many places will let you do that. It is illegal there? Will I have problems renting a house with them?

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Old 06-13-2007, 07:53 PM
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My mistake EugeneBKLYN. I wonder why the russian community has established itself there and how they have changed the dynamic of the area. Is it just in Glendale?
Russians have established communities in most sizable cities.
The biggest of which is here in Brooklyn, NY.

and yes, I do believe the Denver Russians congregate in Glendale. I'm not exactly sure why Glendale.

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Old 06-13-2007, 08:46 PM
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I'm not sure we can accurately describe the entire area of Glendale as one thing because it is not very homogeneous. The strip along Colorado Blvd is Big Box Heaven. Several Big Boxes, a couple of car dealers, Barnes and Noble and a Wild Oats (the closest Whole Foods is actually over at 1st and University but Wild Oats just got bought out by whole foods so maybe its the same now). There are several office buildings, mostly congregated around Cherry Creek. Most of the residential in the city is in apartments/condo's. The high rent stuff is near Cherry Creek with much lower rent stuff sitting adjacent to the nice stuff to the south or north.

As far as Russians in the area, I have been told that Russians own a lot of the strip clubs in the region, including the ones in Glendale. Since there is a concentration of strip clubs in Glendale it makes sense that there might be a concentration of Russians there. I certainly wouldn't say that it is a Russian dominated neighborhood though. I never noticed more Russians there then somewhere else but I'm usually oblivious to those sorts of things.

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Old 06-14-2007, 09:30 AM
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My mistake EugeneBKLYN. I wonder why the russian community has established itself there and how they have changed the dynamic of the area. Is it just in Glendale?

dougindenver
Where I live, and have lived, each neighborhood, suburb, and outlying towns all have their own personality and identity. Only a few miles away from where I live, there is a very different feel and grouping of people living there. Unfortunetely I think this may be due to economic and racial differences. I thought perhaps this may be the case in Denver. I thought glendale may be different from other neighborhoods and have a personality of its own. From what you have said, I gather it is a big box neighborhood. Glendale looked green to me (but I am in the desert right now, so anything looks greener at the moment). I especially liked the lakes and parks I saw nearby, but I am not sure if they are actually in glendale. I wonder if people work at keeping their lawns landscaped beautifully in the area. I know you said there are not many rental houses in the area, but is there an affordable area you can recommend I look into.

As far as the traffic cams go, I guess I will have to try the library's computers. For some reason the pictures are not coming up on my computer. Are they moving picture cams, or time lapsed?
Thank goodness it is not stop and go traffic, even if it is busy.

I was glad to see whole foods mentioned. There are no organic stores here, so I always try to go to the farmer's market in the summer months.

I love the google street view, when I can get it to work. I'll have to try to take a virtual drive around the area.

What parts of denver have you lived, or do you live in? Did you choose the area for a specific reason? I actually might be working in downtown denver, too, near the convention center if I don't end up liking the location in glendale. I won't decide that for sure until I can actually visit. I will only have one week of actual visiting time before I have to decide. That is very little time to see the area so I want to make sure I hit up all the right spots. Do you enjoy working in downtown denver?

Anyway sorry for all the mountains of questions, but this is the best place I can find to ask them.

Thanks for getting back to me.

Oh and one more thing. What do you think the city's general view is on cats? I have cats and have yet to find many cities that are very accepting. I would love to take them out on walks in strollers and eat at the balcony of restaurants with them, but not many places will let you do that. It is illegal there? Will I have problems renting a house with them?
I live in Park Hill - east of City Park because I like older houses. 15 years ago I rented about a half miles due west of Glendale on Florida, but that area is being totally rebuilt - old small homes being torn down and big houses that fill the lot built.

I knew the grocery was not a Whole Foods, but could not recall the name Wild Oats so I just gave the closest one I could come up with.

As for cats, I guess I can't say if there is some overall attitude towards them because cats by nature are sort of under the radar. People probably don't notice them enough to form a view. There are certainly a lot of dogs in Denver, though I would not say that officially the city is dog friendly. There are a few small fenced places set aside for off leash runs, buth they are few and far between. Let them off leash anywhere else and you can get a ticket - I have - a lab chasing a tennis ball is a crime! You do see people with dogs at the outdoor sidewalk seating of restaurants, but not so much that I would call it common, and usually the dog is outide the rail surrounding the seating area. Can't say I have ever seen a cat at a restaurant. I imagine lots of rentals woudl let you have them, though there might be a fee.

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Can anyone tell me about an area that appears to be near Glendale? Street is Bellaire @ Louisiana, appears to be about a block east of S Colorado, between E Mississippi & E Louisiana, and north of I-25. Thanks!

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These reputations are somewhat dated. Glendale is now part of the well considered cherry creek school district, has some very luxurious apartment buildings, new, and has a sports arena, an urban library, a recreation center and courts, and is the most multilingual part of Denver. It also has the most awsome 24 hour starbucks next to the Barnes and Noble on Colo Blvd. It does have a fair share of low income apartment buildings and some affordable homes, but only a few as most of them are, as a prior posted said, in southeast Denver. There is only one bar of the infamous type of repute and that is Shotgun Willies--being a bar with dancers.

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