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Old 05-20-2010, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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So charge all students for supplies or something similar. The districts receive per pupil funding from the state. If they serve the area the kids live, and they're getting the per capita funding for the student, that cost shouldn't fall on the individuals just because they live too far away to walk.
Heh, when I suggested paying a flat charge per pupil to supplement school instruction a while back, I got an earful on this board since this is public schooling and that is against the law. So even though I support a flat instructional fee, good luck with that taking off.

School equipment can be obtained through PTO fundraising, we do plenty of those. I don't know specifically what that fund can pay for though, I'm sure there would be people crying foul if a rich school neighborhood were to use that fund for paying their teachers additional amounts.
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Old 05-20-2010, 04:00 PM
 
Location: western Centennial, CO
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I'm glad we live just outside the 2mi walking boundary for CCHS. One neighborhood over and they have to walk. 2mi is good exercise for teens anyway. It's not bad compared to the average walking boundary for metro area HS's at 2.5mi.
I never really checked this out but got curious so I did a little research. Here are some walking distance boundaries for high schools:

Littleton - 1.5 miles
Jefferson County - 2.5
Aurora - 3

I'm torn on the issue of charging. On one hand it seems like it is fair to charge those that use it. On the other hand it might encourage unsafe behavior in parents making their children walk long distances or otherwise put into unsafe positions. I do like how they waive the fee for reduced lunch students. Isn't one of the criteria for choosing a house to be close to schools (but not too close). Apparently though this was what was chosen in a survey send to parents in the district so that seems to be the most popular (assuming however most of the votes came from parents of children who couldn't ride the bus anyways!)
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Old 05-20-2010, 04:11 PM
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Location: Foot of the Rockies
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The Douglas County SD program seems unnecessarily complicated, with GPS monitoring, charging kid per ride, etc. Another district, I believe it is Jeffco, is going to charge a flat $10/month/kid for bus service. While I persoanlly don't care for charging for busing, I think the DCSD voters need to wake up and smell the coffee regarding voting for tax hikes. Boulder Valley voted in favor of a transportation fee a few years ago, so money for transportation isn't taken away from the regular budget.
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Old 05-20-2010, 04:17 PM
 
Location: CO
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Heh, when I suggested paying a flat charge per pupil to supplement school instruction a while back, I got an earful on this board since this is public schooling and that is against the law. So even though I support a flat instructional fee, good luck with that taking off.

School equipment can be obtained through PTO fundraising, we do plenty of those. I don't know specifically what that fund can pay for though, I'm sure there would be people crying foul if a rich school neighborhood were to use that fund for paying their teachers additional amounts.
Of course, I actually agree that a flat charge per pupil to supplement school instruction would be against the law, because this is public schooling. That's the point about charging for necessary (not optional) bussing. Just because all students don't need it, doesn't make it okay to charge those that do need it. Districts can't charge more for special ed, for honors classes, etc. even though not all students use it, or are entitled to it. Again, school attendance is not optional or by choice, students are required to attend school.
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Old 05-20-2010, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Of course, I actually agree that a flat charge per pupil to supplement school instruction would be against the law, because this is public schooling. That's the point about charging for necessary (not optional) bussing. Just because all students don't need it, doesn't make it okay to chatge those that do need it. Districts can't charge more for special ed, for honors classes, etc. even though not all students use it, or are entitled to it. Again, school attendance is not optional or by choice, students are required to attend school.
I would surmise that the counter argument is that while schools are mandated to provide busing, riding the bus is not forced upon the student who are outside the walking boundary. There's a cost associated to it, just like there's a cost associated to lunch meals (which, students have the option to pay to eat or not).

At least DCSD parents had a choice in voting for an option, many districts really don't have much of a referendum in what they choose to cut.
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Old 05-20-2010, 04:39 PM
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Location: Foot of the Rockies
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I would surmise that the counter argument is that while schools are mandated to provide busing, riding the bus is not forced upon the student who are outside the walking boundary. There's a cost associated to it, just like there's a cost associated to lunch meals (which, students have the option to pay to eat or not).

At least DCSD parents had a choice in voting for an option, many districts really don't have much of a referendum in what they choose to cut.
School lunches are a Department of Agriculture program. DCSD parents didn't vote for this, the school board did.
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Old 05-20-2010, 04:48 PM
 
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I'll shuttle them to school behind my 73 pinto pulling a hay trailer for just a quarter a day.
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Old 05-20-2010, 04:51 PM
 
Location: CO
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I'll shuttle them to school behind my 73 pinto pulling a hay trailer for just a quarter a day.
Do it for free, and take donations from the gawkers on the sidelines. Otherwise, the problem remains. It's not the absolute dollars, or as you characterized it, only the cost of a daily latte.
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Old 05-20-2010, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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DCSD parents didn't vote for this, the school board did.
Oh, for some reason I thought I read that parents were given a survey and pay-for-bus was the top choice. I'm sure the school board knows what's best for our kids.
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Old 05-20-2010, 08:59 PM
 
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I never knew that the bus was even free other places. Here in CA we pay $500 a kid for a bus ride to school and back, good thing we lived close to school.
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