Car Business in Denver or surrounding areas. (Colorado Springs: sales, credit)

[INPHX]

My husband and I currently live in Phx. We too are looking to possiable relocated to Denver. He currently makes a min of 100,000 per year in the car business. Does anyone know if that is achievable in Col. Does anyone know, anyone in the business and or a reputable dealership to possibly work or apply for. Arizona is a right to work state, so at anytime you are a expendable employee, meaning absolutely no job security at all. Your pay can be cut in a moments notice without any rights to you as the employee. If you don't like it you can leave. In Arizona you are considered a "at will employee" at all times. It really doesn't matter what profession you are in. Although some companies with headquarters in other states do not practice this type of business. Does Colorado have that same type of feel?

[xxman777]

I think you are thinking of at-will employment. Right to work refers to whether you have to join a union if one is present. In right to work states you don't have to join a union if one is present. In forced union states you have to join unions if they are present. I really doubt there is a car salesman union for you to join in CO.

All states have at-will employment which means the employer or employee may terminate employment at any time. There are a few exceptions to this and Colorado actually has less protections then Arizona. Arizona has adopted the covenant of good faith and fair dealing exception, while Colorado has not. Basically this means in Arizona employer personnel decisions that are made in bad faith or motivated by malice are prohibited while in Colorado they are not.

I don't work in the car sales bus so I can't tell you what the culture is like in CO but I never felt afraid of losing my job in other industries. I would say though, do your job and you won't have much to worry about.

[2bindenver]

I know folks at Phil Long (dealerships in SW Denver & CO Springs) and at Auto Nation's John Elway dealerships, both have good reputations. Sometimes it gets slow, just like any sales job.

[bouyzst8]

I've been in the Car Business for over 8 years, and right now, I would not encourage anyone to leave a good paying job and sit and wait for the right up to walk in to your doors.

[BlueSimple]

Yeah I did that for a while. It can be a whole lot of fun, but it is a tough business. One difficult aspect is going to a new place after you've been somewhere for a while and have made yourself a built-in repeat business. 100k+ in auto sales is absolutely doable, especially in a good sized market; either you are flipping cars almost daily or you are in the luxuy market or you've been doing it many many years. You can make that selling Chevys but you got to be in it for the long haul, and want to do it of course. I am sure there are reputable dealers with accreditation, five-star ratings, etc...

I personally left it for moral reasons, tax-bumps do not let me rest easily at night! I know some great people in the business and they are all doing the belt-tightening thing these days due to the lack of real prospects. Dealer greed hasn't helped either.

[wanttomoveeast]

I respectfully disagree with this blanket statement and do not believe it to be entirely true.

Originally Posted by xxman777

All states have at-will employment...

There are several exceptions to the at-will employment and these exceptions apply to only a few states. There aer right to work states, 22 I believe.

There are public policy exceptions and implied contract exceptions in most states but not all. And then there is the covenant of good faith, which is what you spoke about.

And then there are the many states that have enacted a wrongful discharge statute.

Originally Posted by xxman777

I think you are thinking of at-will employment. Right to work refers to whether you have to join a union if one is present. In right to work states you don't have to join a union if one is present. In forced union states you have to join unions if they are present. I really doubt there is a car salesman union for you to join in CO.

All states have at-will employment which means the employer or employee may terminate employment at any time. There are a few exceptions to this and Colorado actually has less protections then Arizona. Arizona has adopted the covenant of good faith and fair dealing exception, while Colorado has not. Basically this means in Arizona employer personnel decisions that are made in bad faith or motivated by malice are prohibited while in Colorado they are not.

I don't work in the car sales bus so I can't tell you what the culture is like in CO but I never felt afraid of losing my job in other industries. I would say though, do your job and you won't have much to worry about.

[ryanek9freak]

I work at a Saturn dealership in Colorado Springs, and trust me when I tell you this,

The new car business SUCKS right now. We have 8 sales people, and between them, they sold 10 new cars last month.

Our business is hemhorraging (sp?) over $80,000 a month, and most of the sales staff has had to pay back the money they got last month. (It's a wierd pay plan that Phil Long has in place)

I work on flat rate commission in the service dept, and myself and every other tech is almost starving to death right now. Nonoe of us are averaging more than 30 hours a week. People just arent spending money, on service or sales.
Expect that to continue. ANd get much worse.

I've had to get a second job bartending just to make ends meet. Thank god my GF works from home so my poor dog doesn't have to locked in a kennel all day and night.