Des Moines' population growth outpaces state, Midwest (Dubuque, West Des Moines: real estate, insurance)

[atler8]

Granite
You've made an interesting comparison here by bringing up a nearby neighbor, Madison, that is fairly close in city & metro size to Des Moines.
In my original post on this thread today I mentioned annexation. Go look up what I said.
I feel strongly that if the city of Des Moines had kept up the fairly aggressive annexation tempo it had in the 1950's & not pretty much sat idly by for between 3 and 4 decades while the surrounding suburbs drew a tight & confining ring all around the west side, northwest & north central sides, a great deal of the suburban population boom would have instead gone into the city of Des Moines itself.
If you look at an old map of Madison & note the tiny geographic area that Madison once entailed after WW2 & compare it to the present Madison city limits, you will understand how a vibrant and & continual annexation program can expand a city area & it's population.
As for the job growth comparison statement you made between the 2 metros, ever since the metro Des Moines economy awakened from a protracted slumberlike rest in the middle of the 1980's, it's job growth on a per cent basis has been among the fastest in the Midwest.

[tollfree]

The article forgot to mention the midwest capitals of Lincoln & Madison (both close to Des Moines), because the entire point was to make it seem as if Des Moines was among the very few state capitals that have grown. No surprises.

[atler8]

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[capitalcityguy]

Originally Posted by RonnieJonez

Keep in mind, Steve King...from Iowa. Governor Branstad is basically eternal governor, and is anti-Hispanic.

Source? Link? Time to stop just throwing stuff against the wall and start supporting your accusations.

[tollfree]

http://www.politico.com/politico44/2...gs-124240.html

There's a million more articles out there where you can read King's anti-Hispanic comments. If you weren't aware of that, you aren't aware of much at all.

Anti-immigrant rhetoric will lead to trouble for all Iowans, advocates say

Branstad is & has been against children of undocumented immigrants receiving public education in Iowa. Those kids didn't choose to come to the US.

Then again, his state is only growing in population because of these people. Like I said, the state isn't sure how to deal with it yet.

[GraniteStater]

Originally Posted by Tek_Freek

Why do we care? I'm confused by why we are now hearing about competition with Madison. Population growth isn't a contest it's an indicator of prosperity.

We here in DSM don't give a damn about Madison. It has no bearing on our metro at all.

Actually it does have bearing in this thread considering the article was comparing state capitols population growth rates and the state capitol of Wisconsin is Madison- bordering the state of Iowa.

[GraniteStater]

Originally Posted by atler8

Granite
You've made an interesting comparison here by bringing up a nearby neighbor, Madison, that is fairly close in city & metro size to Des Moines.
In my original post on this thread today I mentioned annexation. Go look up what I said.
I feel strongly that if the city of Des Moines had kept up the fairly aggressive annexation tempo it had in the 1950's & not pretty much sat idly by for between 3 and 4 decades while the surrounding suburbs drew a tight & confining ring all around the west side, northwest & north central sides, a great deal of the suburban population boom would have instead gone into the city of Des Moines itself.
If you look at an old map of Madison & note the tiny geographic area that Madison once entailed after WW2 & compare it to the present Madison city limits, you will understand how a vibrant and & continual annexation program can expand a city area & it's population.
As for the job growth comparison statement you made between the 2 metros, ever since the metro Des Moines economy awakened from a protracted slumberlike rest in the middle of the 1980's, it's job growth on a per cent basis has been among the fastest in the Midwest.

New job growth in Des Moines has been solid, but is moostly concentrated on the western side of the metro stretching into Dallas County on a percentage basis. Polk County actually lost jobs on a percentage basis between 2000-2010 according the Census Bureau update. Dane County, WI (includes Madison and all the surrounding cities and towns nearby) recorded a 10% increase in new job growth between 2000-2010.

Des Moines metro counties:

Polk County, IA: percentage employment change 2000-2010, -3.9%. Non-farm employment count (234,631)
Population Percentage Change: 2010-2012, 3.0%

Dallas County, IA: percentage employment change 2000-2010, 196.4%. Non-farm employment count (29,040)
Population Percentage Change: 2010-2012, 8.8%

Warren County, IA: percentage employment change 2000-2010, 5.1%. Non-farm employment count (7,968)
Population Percentage Change: 2010-2012, 1.4%

Madison County, IA: percentage employment change 2000-2010, -5.2%. Non-farm employment count (2,631)
Population Percentage Change: 2010-2012, -0.2%

Guthrie County, IA: percentage employment change 2000-2010, 43.4%. Non-farm employment count (2,678)
Population Percentage Change: 2010-2012, -1.6%


Madison, WI metro counties

Dane County, WI: percentage employment change 2000-2010, 10.2%. Non-farm employment count (244,080)
Population Percentage Change: 2010-2012, 3.2%

Columbia County, WI: percentage employment change 2000-2010, 4.2%. Non-farm employment count (18,998).
Population Percentage Change: 2010-2012, -0.5%



The other best performing state capitol metros in the Midwest also include: Columbus, OH, and Indianapolis, IN, however much of the job growth there has shifted to the suburban counties.

[pepe1]

Originally Posted by GraniteStater

New job growth in Des Moines has been solid, but is moostly concentrated on the western side of the metro stretching into Dallas County on a percentage basis. Polk County actually lost jobs on a percentage basis between 2000-2010 according the Census Bureau update. Dane County, WI (includes Madison and all the surrounding cities and towns nearby) recorded a 10% increase in new job growth between 2000-2010.

Des Moines metro counties:

Polk County, IA: percentage employment change 2000-2010, -3.9%. Non-farm employment count (234,631)
Population Percentage Change: 2010-2012, 3.0%

Dallas County, IA: percentage employment change 2000-2010, 196.4%. Non-farm employment count (29,040)
Population Percentage Change: 2010-2012, 8.8%

Warren County, IA: percentage employment change 2000-2010, 5.1%. Non-farm employment count (7,968)
Population Percentage Change: 2010-2012, 1.4%

Madison County, IA: percentage employment change 2000-2010, -5.2%. Non-farm employment count (2,631)
Population Percentage Change: 2010-2012, -0.2%

Guthrie County, IA: percentage employment change 2000-2010, 43.4%. Non-farm employment count (2,678)
Population Percentage Change: 2010-2012, -1.6%


Madison, WI metro counties

Dane County, WI: percentage employment change 2000-2010, 10.2%. Non-farm employment count (244,080)
Population Percentage Change: 2010-2012, 3.2%

Columbia County, WI: percentage employment change 2000-2010, 4.2%. Non-farm employment count (18,998).
Population Percentage Change: 2010-2012, -0.5%



The other best performing state capitol metros in the Midwest also include: Columbus, OH, and Indianapolis, IN, however much of the job growth there has shifted to the suburban counties.

In previous posts, you've been somehow trying to suggest that Madison is clobbering the Des Moines area in population and job growth. These numbers you just presented seem to indicate the two metros are almost dead nuts even in job gains...

[steel03]

Originally Posted by atler8

It's the same old story here:

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Is there anyone else out there who enjoys population data & wants to continue the conversation on the original topic as regards Des Moines?

[GraniteStater]

Originally Posted by pepe1

In previous posts, you've been somehow trying to suggest that Madison is clobbering the Des Moines area in population and job growth. These numbers you just presented seem to indicate the two metros are almost dead nuts even in job gains...

Compare core metro county to core metro county. Dane County outpaced Polk County over 13% bewteen 2000-2010 in job growth. The core counties contain the vast majority of the jobs. Dane County is the fastest growing county in Wisconsin in percentage terms so far this decade and grew at least 10-15% the prior decade. Slow and steady growth that is well planned, not haphazard growth common in the Sunbelt without the ancillary investement in community infrastructure, schools, roads, and services, etc.