Good city for my daughter? (Detroit, Warren: apartments, renter, HOA)

[Coldjensens]

Downtown riverfront area, corktown, the area near Eastern Market, Ferndale, Royal Oak, Wyandotte, Parts of Dearborn, she might find something small and cheap in Palmer park or in the pointes, but it woudl take a lot of searching and patience.

[detroitlove]

Originally Posted by ForStarters

Remisc, is she looking for a house, or an apartment or condo? Will she have a roommate or just need a 1 bedroom? If she's looking for a house, I think either Woodbridge or Corktown would be good to check out in Detroit. If she's looking for an apartment/loft, there are some great places downtown. Same goes for condos. The condos at Riverfront Towers over by Joe Louis are selling for around 60k these days (Stevie Y lived there back in the day). There's also Lafayette Park, which has some very nice co-ops that are around 10k or in some cases less. I almost bought one in 1300 Lafayette East before I moved into my present place. The 1300 building is very clean and secure, and from what I know, it's mostly all professionals, i.e. doctors, lawyers, journalists, and even a few judges live there. Really a bargain if you ask me. Like others have stated, Ferndale is also a decent option based on what you said she's looking for. I'm just glad to see she was able to find a job in the city and is not leaving the state like so many other young people! Good luck with everything, as always.

Grand Lofts in SW are also nice

[detroitlove]

Originally Posted by tigerfan3

Ann Arbor is the city that best meets the criteria the OP listed.

Ann Arbor is 40 min from the city on the freeway

[zthatzmanz28]

Originally Posted by [JS]

I forgot to mention in my private message that Berkley isn't very racially diverse, though. Mostly white with 50% of the population being either German or Irish.

Y'all know I just gotta ask---

What would be "very diverse?" Less than 40% white? More than 70% non-white? Of the 50% German / Irish, what percentage is Irish or German?

It sounds like it's problematic to be be Irish or German?

[jeanniepep]

LOL, I was wondering that too. Ferndale doesn't have a ton of African-Americans or Latin-Americans, but we have a very high percentage of Homosexual-Americans. And about 80% of us would qualify as "real characters." Is that diverse?

[Retroit]

Originally Posted by zthatzmanz28

What would be "very diverse?" Less than 40% white? More than 70% non-white?

Good question. Although directed at [JS], I think that a diverse population is one that most directly reflects that of the greater region. In the tri-county area of metropolitan Detroit, the racial percentages are (as of 2000):

• White: 68.7%
• Black: 25.1%
• Other: 6.2%

Berkley's percentages for the same year were:

• White: 96.1%
• Black: 0.7%
• Other: 3.2%

[us66]

West Village...Jefferson/Van Dyke?

[Northsider 248]

How I see it, a diverse city would pretty much meet the following criteria:

- Majority population group with one or more large minority groups
- 1-2 large ethnic groups with many smaller ethnic groups in significant populations
- Visual signs of ethnic inhabitance - flags, businesses, etc.

Statistically, a city such as this would be an example of my opinion:

- 81% white, 11% black, 8% others
- 11% German, 10% Polish, 8% Irish, 5% French, 5% Italian, 4% each of Finns, Croats, Dutch, Estonians, Russians, Hispanics and Albanians
- 8% or more foreign born

The examples of race/ethnicity bare no matter, I only used them based on how common they are.

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If I were a demographic philosopher, I'd most likely coin and use the term "majority city" for Berkley because it is mainly white with a huge German/Irish population. On the other end of the spectrum of diversity, something like Hamtramck with racial/ethnic statistics reaching close to the majority group I'd call an "integrated city" because it's gone past the point of being ethnically diverse and it's reached a point where the minority groups assume a position as a small majority.

Something like Ferndale, Hazel Park or West Bloomfield I'd consider a "diverse city" because they meet the criteria I mentioned earlier.

[babigyrl5]

Originally Posted by ForStarters

Remisc, is she looking for a house, or an apartment or condo? Will she have a roommate or just need a 1 bedroom? If she's looking for a house, I think either Woodbridge or Corktown would be good to check out in Detroit. If she's looking for an apartment/loft, there are some great places downtown. Same goes for condos. The condos at Riverfront Towers over by Joe Louis are selling for around 60k these days (Stevie Y lived there back in the day). There's also Lafayette Park, which has some very nice co-ops that are around 10k or in some cases less. I almost bought one in 1300 Lafayette East before I moved into my present place. The 1300 building is very clean and secure, and from what I know, it's mostly all professionals, i.e. doctors, lawyers, journalists, and even a few judges live there. Really a bargain if you ask me. Like others have stated, Ferndale is also a decent option based on what you said she's looking for. I'm just glad to see she was able to find a job in the city and is not leaving the state like so many other young people! Good luck with everything, as always.

How much were your HOA fees? I am finding affordable condos (under $60k) but the HOA fees are over $1k a month!!!

[Dexterguy]

What about the "Cabbage Patch" district of Grosse Pointe Park?