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Old 11-15-2011, 06:55 AM
 
Location: North of Canada, but not the Arctic
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... we doubled the cost of maintaining our infrastructure with the same amount of taxpayer dollars we had before.
So now you think that the government collects the same amount of revenue today that it did in the '50s or '60s?

 
Old 02-27-2012, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Clinton Township, MI
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This post needs background music. I am thinking "Smoke two joints" by Bob Marley. That is the only way that this could be seen as an accurate description of reality.

The stores in DC sell better clothing than the stores in MI? How does that occur? They are the same stores selling the same brands.

The Black women are better looking in DC? How does that occur? Do they breed women for appearance in DC?

Why woudl you compare all of Detroit to only parts of another city? Why not compare parts of a City to parts of a city? Compare say Palmer woods to Queens and see what you get.

Have they canceled the bus that goes from the airport to downtown? While I woudl not want to ride that bus (slow, smelly and too many offensive people), as far as I know it exists and it is public transit. Do you mean that there is no train? That is true and it is too bad. However this IS the motor city. We drive cars. Lots of Cities do nto have trains to or from the Airport. Have you heard of a place called Los Angeles?

Will a major grocery store make a city nicer? Although the grocery stor issue is a major battle cry of outsiders, people who live in Detroit seem to think that this is just an overblown complaint. How many miles outside the City limits is a major grocery? Is there some problem crossing into another city to shop? Do they now have check points or something? (They did not this morning).

While Downtown empties out around 8 - 10 it is fairly active until then, depending n where you are. How many years ago were you last in Downtown? Why do you assume that it has not changed?

If you are a professional, you should probably work on your writing skills. Many of us do not bother to proof read or spell check posts on CD, but you should have a basic understanding of grammar if you are a "professional" (Professional wrestler?)

While Detroit cannot stand up to modern day Manhattan, or San Francisco, Seattle, Dallas or San Diego, it is a rival for Buffalo, Cleveland, Toledo, Milwaulkee (although Milwaulkee wins), Santa Ana, St. Louis, Richmond, and a myriad of other similar cities and compares well with some and nearly well with others. While Detroit has its problems, such problems are endemic to most cities. In the ways that Detroit is worse than other similar cities it is only worse by a small margin (no longer the violent crime capital), and in other ways, it is better than those same Cities. Generalizations are ridiculous, especially about a place the size of Detroit (unless you smoke two joints before you smoke two joints)

While we welcome people who want to come here and enjoy what our State and the city have to offer, and especially those who want to work hard and make a difference, we have a message for those who just want to come here and complain: Go back to Queens. Complainers belong on the coasts please.

Do you know what a Ghetto is? People love to throw that word around without any idea of its meaning. Look it up. Then go smoke two more.
I have not been on here in a while but i will answer your question.
The DMV area has a lot of black professionals and better african american areas. People in Detroit which i would probably say 80 percent of the population in Detroit lives in the ghetto. There is nothing in Detroit no mall no major grocery store no diversity. It's predominantly black. Which would be okay if the city was doing good but no it does not. Detroit is a very badd city i don't think you are saving your city by trying to defend it. Rather try to find solution to its misery instead. There is no i mean no attraction which would attract international visitors other than the Auto Show. The metro area is just plain spread out suburb. I mean let's not lie to ourselves and try to compare detroit with other major cities or metro area. There is nothing special in metro detroit i already established that. And yes the malls are not special in the area. You cannot compare an H&M, Guess or Armani Exchange store in Sommerset troy to the ones in Tyson's Corner, VA or Prince of Prussia in PA. If you think i am just making things up take a trip to DC and go visit better yet, just go to Chicago even their retailers are way better. You defending the city for no reason my good friend. I have been to a lot of major cities. None of them is as chaotic as yours and most people i talk to in the area agree on that well you are probably more devoted to your city than they are. Yes i would compare palmer woods to Queens the day it willl have over 2 million in population, over 1.5 million of foreign born residents from all over the world living in it, public transit etc... Queens is larger than Detroit in all aspects and have much more things to do in it then Detroit has. You really need to stop being an ignorant moron and start considering visiting great cities like NY, Chicago, Boston and DC before you make your idiotic arguements. And look at most of the girls i see in the city are overweight people don't walk i mean man you have to be honest with yourself people in the metro detroit do not know what it means to have a city life it is either ghostown type of lifestyle or suburbam
 
Old 02-27-2012, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Clinton Township, MI
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Sixty years ago, Detroit was one of the most wealthy, powerful and important cities in the entire world.

Compare that to where it's at now.

It's best and most unique attractions now are:
the Auto Show and "Doomsday Tourism".
Completely agree. At least some one from a big city would understand what i mean. Peopl from this area think it is really the way it should be sad.
 
Old 02-27-2012, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Detroit
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I have not been on here in a while but i will answer your question.
The DMV area has a lot of black professionals and better african american areas. People in Detroit which i would probably say 80 percent of the population in Detroit lives in the ghetto. There is nothing in Detroit no mall no major grocery store no diversity. It's predominantly black. Which would be okay if the city was doing good but no it does not. Detroit is a very badd city i don't think you are saving your city by trying to defend it. Rather try to find solution to its misery instead. There is no i mean no attraction which would attract international visitors other than the Auto Show. The metro area is just plain spread out suburb. I mean let's not lie to ourselves and try to compare detroit with other major cities or metro area. There is nothing special in metro detroit i already established that. And yes the malls are not special in the area. You cannot compare an H&M, Guess or Armani Exchange store in Sommerset troy to the ones in Tyson's Corner, VA or Prince of Prussia in PA. If you think i am just making things up take a trip to DC and go visit better yet, just go to Chicago even their retailers are way better. You defending the city for no reason my good friend. I have been to a lot of major cities. None of them is as chaotic as yours and most people i talk to in the area agree on that well you are probably more devoted to your city than they are. Yes i would compare palmer woods to Queens the day it willl have over 2 million in population, over 1.5 million of foreign born residents from all over the world living in it, public transit etc... Queens is larger than Detroit in all aspects and have much more things to do in it then Detroit has. You really need to stop being an ignorant moron and start considering visiting great cities like NY, Chicago, Boston and DC before you make your idiotic arguements. And look at most of the girls i see in the city are overweight people don't walk i mean man you have to be honest with yourself people in the metro detroit do not know what it means to have a city life it is either ghostown type of lifestyle or suburbam
Now I have been to Chicago (so many times I lost count), I've also been to LA, STL, Atl, Miami, ect. Now you say there is nothing special about metro Detroit and can't be compared to other metro areas but I ask you what is soo special about other metro areas then?
So ok we know that metro Detroit has bad Public Transportation, and economy. Now let's see if I can think of some stuff Metro Detroit has. Well for starters Canada is included in the Detroit area, making it basically an international metro area, that is very unique in the metro area, there are 34 colleges in the area, some of them are close to the top in the nation, and since you mentioned malls there are 25 of them, and since I have been out shopping alot of places before, idk wth you are talking about saying other retailers are wayy better when they sell the same sh*t, yea it might be a little bit different and some stores might be a bit unique because they are more popular but they are all the same concept, Gucci this, Louie that, doesn't really matter what city it's in, but I can think of quite a few cities that Metro Detroit has more high end retail stores then, 4 luxury resort casinos, how many major cities can you find this in? the 2nd largest theater district in America, the largest island part in America, I think 15 water parks, and I also think I read somewhere that the Detroit area has 99 museums one of them being the largest indoor/outdoor museum in the nation, oh and also all 4 pro sports teams 3/4 of them being downtown (now that's special to any sports fan) and im not even including college sports U of M sports??? plleeasse. Oh yea and then metro Detroit still has some of the wealthiest suburbs in America, still have plenty of lakes, one of the busiest airports in America (which I believe is one of the main hubs for China), and the history and architecture, we don't have to get on this subject. But honestly how many metro areas can you say has all of this? not many, not very many at all. Oh and about the women lmao, please stop, there is a huge difference between thick and fat and if you don't like Detroit women you probably are either gay, don't like black women, or don't get out much. Now there are quite a few things to complain about in Detroit, the females are damn sure not one of them. Oh yea let me remind you, I have been to many places. So don't even try to pull that BS on me. Oh and you say people in Detroit don't walk? now I very seriously doubt you spend much time in the city for that comment. Especially when it comes to summertime. And you talk about someone else making idiotic statements.

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Old 02-27-2012, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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I have not been on here in a while but i will answer your question.
The DMV area has a lot of black professionals and better african american areas. People in Detroit which i would probably say 80 percent of the population in Detroit lives in the ghetto. There is nothing in Detroit no mall no major grocery store no diversity. It's predominantly black. Which would be okay if the city was doing good but no it does not. Detroit is a very badd city i don't think you are saving your city by trying to defend it. Rather try to find solution to its misery instead. There is no i mean no attraction which would attract international visitors other than the Auto Show. The metro area is just plain spread out suburb. I mean let's not lie to ourselves and try to compare detroit with other major cities or metro area. There is nothing special in metro detroit i already established that. And yes the malls are not special in the area. You cannot compare an H&M, Guess or Armani Exchange store in Sommerset troy to the ones in Tyson's Corner, VA or Prince of Prussia in PA. If you think i am just making things up take a trip to DC and go visit better yet, just go to Chicago even their retailers are way better. You defending the city for no reason my good friend. I have been to a lot of major cities. None of them is as chaotic as yours and most people i talk to in the area agree on that well you are probably more devoted to your city than they are. Yes i would compare palmer woods to Queens the day it willl have over 2 million in population, over 1.5 million of foreign born residents from all over the world living in it, public transit etc... Queens is larger than Detroit in all aspects and have much more things to do in it then Detroit has. You really need to stop being an ignorant moron and start considering visiting great cities like NY, Chicago, Boston and DC before you make your idiotic arguements. And look at most of the girls i see in the city are overweight people don't walk i mean man you have to be honest with yourself people in the metro detroit do not know what it means to have a city life it is either ghostown type of lifestyle or suburbam
You generalize and misuse terms like this and call me a moron? Strange. But then those who resort to name calling are the people who have nothing meaningful to say. If you cannot figure out something thoughtful and intelligent, just start bashing. Maybe it makes oyou fell better about yourself. However it is kind of sad that you feel so lowly that you need to resort to this type of antic to engage in a discussion. I hope you find some way to feel better about yourself someday. Persoanlly, I will just stick your post on the wall next top my doctorate degree and take it with a grain of salt (or laugh at it from time to time).

You obviously know nothing of detroit and are merely generalizing from things that you have heard.

First you have no idea what a ghetto is. Look it up. There are no ghettos in Detroit. So no 80% of Detroits people do nto live in a ghetto. Further, given you lack of knowlege of Detroit is it absurd for you to represent that you know where or how 80% or any % of its people live.

I thnk that I have been to all of the major cities in the US except Portland, Miami, Honolulu, and Anchorage. I have lived in several of them. As I said, if you compare simlar cities, Detroit does not compare badly. If you compare cities that donot compare, then it is just silly. I am not defending Detroit. There is ntohing to defend against. I am however disgusted with generalizations based on rumors. If you want to say Detroit is not New York - well that would hardly be a moment of genius. Detroit is also not Rome or London and is nothing like those palces. However to make absurd generaliations like there is nothing to do here, or no international visitors woudl ever ocome here is just - - well - - absurd.

Last I was in queens, which was four years ago, it was a pit. You could not pay me to live there. Maybe I just did not see the good areas. However the point is that you need to compare things that are at least remotely comparable if you want to have any credibiilty. Further, you should learn at least a little bit about the things that you are comparing.

Much of your poor grammar renders parts of yur post incomrehensible so I cannot respond where you ahve failed tocommunicate what you meant to say. Community colleges have some really good basic writing and reading comprehension courses that are not terribly expensive. If you did not finish high school, you may be able to take such courses in a GED program for free. Punctuation is your friend. It helps you to actually copmmunicate what you mean to say instead of gibberish that no one can understand.

Please inform the international visitors that were here this weekend (tattoo convetion) and the ones here the week before (boat show) and the week before that (cannot remember the event). That they are not supposed to be here. Maybe you had best put up a sign to tell them since I run into international visitors pretty much every day. They do not seem to realize that there is absolutely nothing here and they are not supposed to be here. Wow. those international visitors are really stupid. They keep coming here to see things that do not exist - at least not in your hazy workld view.

No. Detroit is not on the scale of New York and no one ever said it was. It is not that kind of city.

I spend quite a bit of time in Chicago, DC, and several other Cities (primarily LA). While I really have no interst at all in high fashion stores (not a metrosexual bone in my body, sorry), I do nto see dramatic differences. Nordstroms here has the same mens clothing as the one in Orange County. As does Neiman Marcus and the other rip off stores that I have visited.

Every woman in the Detroit area is fat? That is just plain funny.

As someone else mentioned above, just what is it all of the bashers find impossible to do here? Can aynoen name ten things that you can do in New York that you cannot do here (or in any major metro area for that matter)?

There are a few specifc things for example I cannot visit the Statue of LIberty. BUt I can visit the Henry Ford which is at least as interesting. I cannot visit my friend Ronan anywhere but New York, but I can visit lots of friends right here. Whiule I cannto go to 1000 different bars int his area, I could nto do that in New York either. I could not do that anywhere. Two or three a night is pretty much my limit. Beside, I prefer to be a regular as a few quality or cozy places than to flit about like a butterfly. the music secen is quite good here. More original music styles have originated from Detroit than from New York I think. Art? We ahve the DIA. The new artis galleries. Plenty enough for me. I only go look at famous art maybe once a year anyway.

Wait. I got it! We do not have a dinosaur museum in Detroit. That is it. No Dinosaurs. If that is critical to anyone they should move out immediately.

Absurd queens guy is not the first to make these sorts of statements. Is there anyone who can tell me what wonderful thing you can do in New york that I cannot do here?

I seem to find it impossible to feel properly deprived.

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Old 02-27-2012, 06:40 PM
 
Location: west mich
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I have not been on here in a while but i will answer your question.
The DMV area has a lot of black professionals and better african american areas. People in Detroit which i would probably say 80 percent of the population in Detroit lives in the ghetto. There is nothing in Detroit----- And look at most of the girls i see in the city are overweight people don't walk i mean man you have to be honest with yourself people in the metro detroit do not know what it means to have a city life it is either ghostown type of lifestyle or suburbam
Detroit's fat girls are problematic for you? That's it!
Your post is really repetitive - nothing new, and may I say ignorant in its narrowness. Are you new to these threads to not know this?
If you want to be relevant why not offer something new, informative, or enlightening.
 
Old 02-27-2012, 08:51 PM
 
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I have not been on here in a while but i will answer your question.
The DMV area has a lot of black professionals and better african american areas. People in Detroit which i would probably say 80 percent of the population in Detroit lives in the ghetto. There is nothing in Detroit no mall no major grocery store no diversity. It's predominantly black. Which would be okay if the city was doing good but no it does not. Detroit is a very badd city i don't think you are saving your city by trying to defend it. Rather try to find solution to its misery instead. There is no i mean no attraction which would attract international visitors other than the Auto Show. The metro area is just plain spread out suburb. I mean let's not lie to ourselves and try to compare detroit with other major cities or metro area. There is nothing special in metro detroit i already established that. And yes the malls are not special in the area. You cannot compare an H&M, Guess or Armani Exchange store in Sommerset troy to the ones in Tyson's Corner, VA or Prince of Prussia in PA. If you think i am just making things up take a trip to DC and go visit better yet, just go to Chicago even their retailers are way better. You defending the city for no reason my good friend. I have been to a lot of major cities. None of them is as chaotic as yours and most people i talk to in the area agree on that well you are probably more devoted to your city than they are. Yes i would compare palmer woods to Queens the day it willl have over 2 million in population, over 1.5 million of foreign born residents from all over the world living in it, public transit etc... Queens is larger than Detroit in all aspects and have much more things to do in it then Detroit has. You really need to stop being an ignorant moron and start considering visiting great cities like NY, Chicago, Boston and DC before you make your idiotic arguements. And look at most of the girls i see in the city are overweight people don't walk i mean man you have to be honest with yourself people in the metro detroit do not know what it means to have a city life it is either ghostown type of lifestyle or suburbam
No matter how politically incorrect or nut-crushing your post is, you're pretty much spot on (as someone who lives in Detroit right now and will be leaving soon enough).
 
Old 02-27-2012, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Detroit
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You generalize and misuse terms like this and call me a moron? Strange. But then those who resort to name calling are the people who have nothing meaningful to say. If you cannot figure out something thoughtful and intelligent, just start bashing. Maybe it makes oyou fell better about yourself. However it is kind of sad that you feel so lowly that you need to resort to this type of antic to engage in a discussion. I hope you find some way to feel better about yourself someday. Persoanlly, I will just stick your post on the wall next top my doctorate degree and take it with a grain of salt (or laugh at it from time to time).

You obviously know nothing of detroit and are merely generalizing from things that you have heard.

First you have no idea what a ghetto is. Look it up. There are no ghettos in Detroit. So no 80% of Detroits people do nto live in a ghetto. Further, given you lack of knowlege of Detroit is it absurd for you to represent that you know where or how 80% or any % of its people live.

I thnk that I have been to all of the major cities in the US except Portland, Miami, Honolulu, and Anchorage. I have lived in several of them. As I said, if you compare simlar cities, Detroit does not compare badly. If you compare cities that donot compare, then it is just silly. I am not defending Detroit. There is ntohing to defend against. I am however disgusted with generalizations based on rumors. If you want to say Detroit is not New York - well that would hardly be a moment of genius. Detroit is also not Rome or London and is nothing like those palces. However to make absurd generaliations like there is nothing to do here, or no international visitors woudl ever ocome here is just - - well - - absurd.

Last I was in queens, which was four years ago, it was a pit. You could not pay me to live there. Maybe I just did not see the good areas. However the point is that you need to compare things that are at least remotely comparable if you want to have any credibiilty. Further, you should learn at least a little bit about the things that you are comparing.

Much of your poor grammar renders parts of yur post incomrehensible so I cannot respond where you ahve failed tocommunicate what you meant to say. Community colleges have some really good basic writing and reading comprehension courses that are not terribly expensive. If you did not finish high school, you may be able to take such courses in a GED program for free. Punctuation is your friend. It helps you to actually copmmunicate what you mean to say instead of gibberish that no one can understand.

Please inform the international visitors that were here this weekend (tattoo convetion) and the ones here the week before (boat show) and the week before that (cannot remember the event). That they are not supposed to be here. Maybe you had best put up a sign to tell them since I run into international visitors pretty much every day. They do not seem to realize that there is absolutely nothing here and they are not supposed to be here. Wow. those international visitors are really stupid. They keep coming here to see things that do not exist - at least not in your hazy workld view.

No. Detroit is not on the scale of New York and no one ever said it was. It is not that kind of city.

I spend quite a bit of time in Chicago, DC, and several other Cities (primarily LA). While I really have no interst at all in high fashion stores (not a metrosexual bone in my body, sorry), I do nto see dramatic differences. Nordstroms here has the same mens clothing as the one in Orange County. As does Neiman Marcus and the other rip off stores that I have visited.

Every woman in the Detroit area is fat? That is just plain funny.

As someone else mentioned above, just what is it all of the bashers find impossible to do here? Can aynoen name ten things that you can do in New York that you cannot do here (or in any major metro area for that matter)?

There are a few specifc things for example I cannot visit the Statue of LIberty. BUt I can visit the Henry Ford which is at least as interesting. I cannot visit my friend Ronan anywhere but New York, but I can visit lots of friends right here. Whiule I cannto go to 1000 different bars int his area, I could nto do that in New York either. I could not do that anywhere. Two or three a night is pretty much my limit. Beside, I prefer to be a regular as a few quality or cozy places than to flit about like a butterfly. the music secen is quite good here. More original music styles have originated from Detroit than from New York I think. Art? We ahve the DIA. The new artis galleries. Plenty enough for me. I only go look at famous art maybe once a year anyway.

Wait. I got it! We do not have a dinosaur museum in Detroit. That is it. No Dinosaurs. If that is critical to anyone they should move out immediately.

Absurd queens guy is not the first to make these sorts of statements. Is there anyone who can tell me what wonderful thing you can do in New york that I cannot do here?

I seem to find it impossible to feel properly deprived.
If I could rep you I would. lmao this post had me on the floor laughing. Best use of sarcasm I have seen in a while.
 
Old 02-27-2012, 09:22 PM
 
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y.
  • General dysfunction of the black culture, which Detroit is predominantly composed of. Many cities have more whites -- especially hispanics -- which moderate this.
Nah, it makes no sense to point fingers. Detroit lost half of it's population, most of those who fled were whites. What were those abandoned houses supposed to do? Sit there and continue to look pretty? Nah, they were going to fall apart and look ugly. Detroit looks the way it does because of the flight, the houses that are occupied (even in 'high' crime areas) still look fine.

The mess that Detroit is in now comes full circle to the flight (and a lot of Blacks are getting out these days too). Who was responsible for that. Black crime is really tangential to everything.
 
Old 02-27-2012, 09:22 PM
 
Location: Detroit's eastside, downtown Detroit in near future!
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No matter how politically incorrect or nut-crushing your post is, you're pretty much spot on (as someone who lives in Detroit right now and will be leaving soon enough).
YOU DON'T LIVE IN DETROIT!!!! stop lying already and the person who is talking so much ish really doesn't know what they talking about. their posts even worth ready, clearly they have no idea what they are talking about just like you. you both are outsiders now don't worry about my city.
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