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Old 01-26-2011, 10:33 PM
 
Location: Detroit's eastside, downtown Detroit in near future!
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This is true. If you think of a city in terms of a body, then the downtown is the heart. When a city is in need of rebirth, it only makes sense to start with the downtown. A city with a vibrant, interesting, relatively safe downtown is a city that will attract attention and people will start realizing that the rest of it, bit by bit, is probably worth saving too. Detroit has made HUGE strides in its downtown even in the past few decades. I can't imagine who would have lived in downtown Detroit when I was a kid, and now it is filled with young professionals and gorgeous lofts that rival those in Chicago and New York. As a result of these developments, Midtown is experiencing somewhat of a renaissance as well. I commented here this past summer that I was amazed at the Woodward corridor beyond the Fox Theater and the ballpark, because those are blocks that I can remember driving past when I was a kid with my parents and it was all bars, wig shops, and pawn shops. Now I see Starbucks, other cafes and restaurants, new lofts and apartments, and life, lots of life! People out and about and not afraid. This was not even close to being the case a couple of decades ago.

Downtown is still a work in progress, and it's so exciting to see. It's beginning to rival the downtowns of other great cities again bit by bit. I don't blame people for wanting to be a part of it and getting excited about it. Start with downtown, get the people there first, let them discover how much they love it, and bit by bit the rest of the city may turn around too.
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Old 01-26-2011, 10:41 PM
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Location: Here.
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how does a city being "so black" create obstacles fot whites to move into the city. come on now be serious
If there weren't obstacles, don't you think that more white people would have moved into black neighborhoods?
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Old 01-26-2011, 10:48 PM
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Think immigration is good for Detroit then?
I think immigration is essential. Immigration from foreign countries, immigration from other cities in America, and immigration of young people from throughout the metro area are essential to replenish the residents who move outward.

It's basically a matter of wealth. As people in the city gain wealth, they move out to newer/bigger/nicer homes. They are replaced by less wealthy people who immigrate into the city to take advantage of the cheaper/older/fixer-upper homes.
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Old 01-26-2011, 11:22 PM
 
Location: Detroit's eastside, downtown Detroit in near future!
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If there weren't obstacles, don't you think that more white people would have moved into black neighborhoods?
what are these so called obstacles???
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Old 01-26-2011, 11:29 PM
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In your idealized view of Detroit, none.
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Old 01-27-2011, 07:47 AM
 
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Old 01-27-2011, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Detroit's eastside, downtown Detroit in near future!
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In your idealized view of Detroit, none.
no please be specific. Since people of the burbs often believe this crap. Let me guess you'll be harassed because you're white right? I mean, you're the one who said there were obstacles, tell me.
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Old 01-27-2011, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Detroit is 'turning around' like the Aral Sea is getting re-filled.

There are some nice stories here and there, but it will never be close to what it was.
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Old 01-27-2011, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Downtown Detroit
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Detroit is 'turning around' like the Aral Sea is getting re-filled.

There are some nice stories here and there, but it will never be close to what it was.

I think that people who are familiar with Detroit have realistic expectations about how far it will bounce back. Similar to Pittsburgh (your location), Detroit does not need to reach the level it hit in 1950 to be a very livable, very enjoyable, high quality of life city. I'd argue that in some respects, Detroit is that city today. But at the same time, I would really hope that Detroit reemerges not as the city it was in 1950, but as a new city that is more progressive, more economically diverse, and more prideful. One of the biggest problems with reinventing Detroit is that people keep pretending like we need to "get back" to 1950. What Detroit really needs is to forget 1950, to work with what we have, to be excited about the future, to embrace our accomplishments, to work together, and to root for our collective success. When that city begins to shine through, then I will be positive that Detroit is back.
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Old 01-27-2011, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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I agree ^ and really hope it happens. I'm pulling for the D.

And for my Wolverines to take down the Spartans tonight- Go Blue!
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