Detroit's 2010 population to be released this week. (Warren, Southfield: real estate, unemployment rate)
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I would be interested in seeing a map of a breakdown of city neighborhoods. Cincinnati, Cleveland, Chicago, etc, that all saw population drops overall also saw strong growth in their downtown cores, reversing a decade's long trend. I wonder if this also happened with Detroit. But yeah, a loss of over 238,000 people is incredible. How does a city lose almost 24,000 people a year?
Livingston County = 180,967 (decline from 183,118)
Monroe County = 152, 021 (decline from 152, 949)
Washtenaw County = 344,791 (decline from 347,563)
Genessee County = 425,790 (increase from 424, 043)
Lapeer County = 88,319 (decline from 89,974)
St. Clair County = 163,040 (decline from 167,562)
Sanilac County = 43,114 (increase from 42,064)
Lenawee County = 99,892 (decline from 100,801)
Yeah, so only 3,000-odd people out of the MSA's 140k loss remained in Detroit's CSA at all. Statisically those 3,000 people don't make much of a difference at all. And actually, when you tally it all up, we lost another 7k people in addition to the 140k.
Also, although it doesn't matter when you consider the circumstances, Macomb County was Michigan's fastest growing county.
But again, when you dig deeper and find out how and why Macomb County was the fastest growing county in Michigan it doesn't mean much of anything.
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I would be interested in seeing a map of a breakdown of city neighborhoods. Cincinnati, Cleveland, Chicago, etc, that all saw population drops overall also saw strong growth in their downtown cores, reversing a decade's long trend. I wonder if this also happened with Detroit. But yeah, a loss of over 238,000 people is incredible. How does a city lose almost 24,000 people a year?
Despite that there was a -7% decline, Chicago's central core areas grew crazy, even rivaling our fast growing suburban communities.
Here are the numbers of the core communities(within 1.5-2 miles radius)
2010
Loop(official CBD)- 29,283(+78.7%)
Near Southside- 21,390(+124.9%)
Near Westside- 54,881(+18.2)
Near Northside-80,484(10.5%)
Two things might help explain the severity of the drop. The first is that there were no mathematical adjustments made to the numbers. The numbers for 2000 were based upon adjustments made from suits filed for undercounts. The second thing is that Mayor Bing did not put much energy as previous mayors of Detroit have done, to ensure that everyone is counted. Being counted is like voting. A lot of people will not vote unless people and leaders get out and push them to vote by getting them to understand the importance of a particular election. One has to choose to be counted by taking the time to fill out forms, and quite frankly, a lot of poor people don’t want to be bothered with it. In the past there were massive efforts and advertisement to ensure that everyone was counted in Detroit, especially when funding was tied to cities of over 1 million. As soon as Detroit dropped below that magic funding number, the city spent hardly any effort in trying to ensure everyone is counted.
I have always been a demographic nerd. I probably can tell you the population of the 50 largest cities in America right off the top of my head. I must say that I have never seen anything like this. It’s just hard for me to accept that there has been such a radical change in the last 10 years. This is migration of epic proportions and I cannot make sense of where everyone supposedly went to. You are talking about a loss of about 200,000 blacks from the city. Where did they go? There are hardly any jobs in Atlanta and Carolina as there unemployment rates is around 10% with a net loss of jobs the last two years. So did they just move south to be unemployed? Are there 200,0000 new blacks in the burbs? Have alien UFO abducted Detroiters?
Two things might help explain the severity of the drop. The first is that there were no mathematical adjustments made to the numbers. The numbers for 2000 were based upon adjustments made from suits filed for undercounts. The second thing is that Mayor Bing did not put much energy as previous mayors of Detroit have done, to ensure that everyone is counted. Being counted is like voting. A lot of people will not vote unless people and leaders get out and push them to vote by getting them to understand the importance of a particular election. One has to choose to be counted by taking the time to fill out forms, and quite frankly, a lot of poor people don’t want to be bothered with it. In the past there were massive efforts and advertisement to ensure that everyone was counted in Detroit, especially when funding was tied to cities of over 1 million. As soon as Detroit dropped below that magic funding number, the city spent hardly any effort in trying to ensure everyone is counted.
I have always been a demographic nerd. I probably can tell you the population of the 50 largest cities in America right off the top of my head. I must say that I have never seen anything like this. It’s just hard for me to accept that there has been such a radical change in the last 10 years. This is migration of epic proportions and I cannot make sense of where everyone supposedly went to. You are talking about a loss of about 200,000 blacks from the city. Where did they go? There are hardly any jobs in Atlanta and Carolina as there unemployment rates is around 10% with a net loss of jobs the last two years. So did they just move south to be unemployed? Are there 200,0000 new blacks in the burbs? Have alien UFO abducted Detroiters?
You had a president whose idea of a world-class city is Houston telling anyone who could spell their name to go take out a loan for a house in the 'burbs. That probably had something to do with it.
You had a president whose idea of a world-class city is Houston telling anyone who could spell their name to go take out a loan for a house in the 'burbs. That probably had something to do with it.
For sure that played a big part of it but what suburbs did these people move to? Given that in the case of Detroit those that left were mostly black......I would expect that you would see a radical increase in the percentage of population that is black in many inner ring suburbs. I mean, I think that the growth of the Hispanic population is plainly obvious. I would expect that the growth of the African American population would be equally obvious in the burbs. Now, granted, there are a lot more blacks visible in certain suburbs, but those suburbs had so few blacks traditionally that a small increase can look like a lot.
Yep, interesting for sure. I believe downtown Cleveland saw upwards of 20% growth. Columbus, which overall did very well in growth, saw up to 40% growth in its downtown. These numbers are encouraging in that they show that cities are having success at urban revitalization even as the suburbs grow.
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The census numbers from Metro Detroit counties produced a mixed bag. In the past decade:
— Oakland County saw its population grow from 1,194,196 to 1,202,362.
— Wayne County's dropped from 2,061,162 to 1,820,584.
— Macomb County's population grew from 788,149 to 840,978.
— Livingston County's population grew from 156,951 to 180,967"
Census shocker: Detroit’s population falls to 713,000 - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_localdtw/20110322/ts_yblog_localdtw/census-shocker-detroits-population-falls-to-713000 - broken link)
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