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Old 04-22-2012, 08:48 PM
 
Location: west mich
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My posts generate anger from several posters in here and considering what I am saying I guess I expect that. However just because you dont like what I am saying does not mean I am going to quit saying it. You people in Detroit destroyed one of the largest cities in the country and I think you should be held accountable for that. The conditions down there are ridiculous and everyone knows they are.
You have adopted a comfortable tunnel vision toward Detroit - one that serves a need of yours. Detroit is not "destroyed" - that is hyperbole. You seem to be saying that the city is doomed rather than in transition - wishful thinking? The rust belt industries were not destroyed by "us people". We did have bad leadership, so narrow critiques of the city are partial truths.
Propaganda, for example, is based on partial truths so we wisely don't accept it as the whole story.
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Old 04-22-2012, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Somewhere below Mason/Dixon
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I'm sorry to break it to daniel but the suburbs in oakland county and the pointes are not the 'nicest' in the nation. Just about every big city I've been has very 'nice' suburbs and many of these 'nice' suburbs are just as nice if not nicer.

I also have to ask, how do you know crime is outta control? You don't live here and probably only spent very little time here? What are you going on here? How do you compare this crime to other cities you never lived in and never been to?

And as nice as these suburbs supposedly are, you guys still come to detroit more than we come up there. Every now and then, once in a blue moon, I may go up to RO/Ferndale but the suburbs I like are pontiac (has some good nightlife), inkster (a lot of friends here), hamtramck (interesting area in general), highland park (a lot of friends, some good food joints), harper woods (got some business in the area) and occasionally I'll go to grosse pointe and buy groceries at kroger (don't buy groceries nearly enough).

However, you guys come down here to chill in our downtown and drop your money in our casinos. You come to our university (wayne). You come for games, shows, concerts. You come to our neighborhoods to buy drugs. You need us more than we need you, and that's just a fact.
You refer to downtown as "yours" well here is a reality check for you. The small area of downtown that people visit around the ball parks, greektown and the casinos is only nice because outside money made it that way. Those stadiums were not built with detroit money, and neither were the casinos. In fact alot of money and effort goes into keeping "real Detroit" out of that small district downtown. Even your corrupt city goverment fears what would happen if stories of murders, rapes, and robberies occuring near the so called safe downtown areas started circulating. The only real incomming cash Detroit has is from the suburban people spending cash downtown. As far as who needs who, well you dont want to go there. Without state welfare dollars I cant imagine what would happen in Detroit. I really dont want to see those kind of headlines in the national press about Michigan and im sure most people dont either. For that reason welfare, state programs and food stamps for Detroit are likely safe for now. Detroit needs the rest of Michigan far more than we need you.
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Old 04-22-2012, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Somewhere below Mason/Dixon
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You have adopted a comfortable tunnel vision toward Detroit - one that serves a need of yours. Detroit is not "destroyed" - that is hyperbole. You seem to be saying that the city is doomed rather than in transition - wishful thinking? The rust belt industries were not destroyed by "us people". We did have bad leadership, so narrow critiques of the city are partial truths.
Propaganda, for example, is based on partial truths so we wisely don't accept it as the whole story.


Google ruins of Detroit, there you will see evidence of Detroits destruction. You tube videos go into detail, showing a driving tour of the destruction. I cant imagine Bierut or Bagdad being much worse.
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Old 04-22-2012, 10:03 PM
 
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Where are Detroiters moving to?
Where are young white professionals and suburbanites moving to

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White Population Growing in Detroit
Updated: Thursday, 30 Sep 2010, 5:25 PM EDT
Published : Wednesday, 29 Sep 2010, 10:22 PM EDT

By ANDREA ISOM
FOX 2 NEWS | myFOXDetroit.com

DETROIT - After several decades of what's been called "white flight", Detroit is seeing an increase in white residents.

White Population Growing in Detroit (http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news/local/white-population-growing-in-detroit-20100929-wpms - broken link)
There goes the neighborhood
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Old 04-22-2012, 10:10 PM
 
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You refer to downtown as "yours" well here is a reality check for you. The small area of downtown that people visit around the ball parks, greektown and the casinos is only nice because outside money made it that way. Those stadiums were not built with detroit money, and neither were the casinos. In fact alot of money and effort goes into keeping "real Detroit" out of that small district downtown. Even your corrupt city goverment fears what would happen if stories of murders, rapes, and robberies occuring near the so called safe downtown areas started circulating. The only real incomming cash Detroit has is from the suburban people spending cash downtown. As far as who needs who, well you dont want to go there. Without state welfare dollars I cant imagine what would happen in Detroit. I really dont want to see those kind of headlines in the national press about Michigan and im sure most people dont either. For that reason welfare, state programs and food stamps for Detroit are likely safe for now. Detroit needs the rest of Michigan far more than we need you.
It's ours, it's detroit. Not Bham, not bloomfield hills, not whatever small out there place you guys decide to put up houses.

And we detroiters don't use our dt? Are you for real? Have you been down here actually? I can't go to the mgm without running into my friends. My neighbor goes all the time, he even got one of those mgm cards. **** man, I think he basically sleeps in the casino He get's the pocket change from your kiddies coming and payin him so they can slam btar till their veins are bhard. Keep up the allowance money rolling
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Old 04-22-2012, 10:13 PM
 
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Google ruins of Detroit, there you will see evidence of Detroits destruction. You tube videos go into detail, showing a driving tour of the destruction. I cant imagine Bierut or Bagdad being much worse.
Detroit's destruction caused by you lot setting fires, scamming insurances, and just leaving your old house for mother nature to make sweet love
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Old 04-22-2012, 10:22 PM
 
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Where are young white professionals and suburbanites moving to



There goes the neighborhood
Detroit saw a decline in its white population.

It decreased from ~75,000 to around ~40,000.

Just because the percentage of white people in the city increased relative to the total number of people in the city doesn't mean the actual number of white people in the city increased.

And I actually attribute that ~1% increase mostly to the fact that Detroit lost ~200,000 blacks.
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Old 04-22-2012, 10:27 PM
 
Location: west mich
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Google ruins of Detroit, there you will see evidence of Detroits destruction. You tube videos go into detail, showing a driving tour of the destruction. I cant imagine Bierut or Bagdad being much worse.
We know about the youtube trolls. Anybody can make those freakin' "driving tours" anywhere. They're easy! The question is why bother unless one has an agenda or has no life.
Just think, all the many hours it takes to film and edit those videos is just that much time out of a person's life (such as it is).
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Old 04-22-2012, 10:41 PM
 
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Detroit saw a decline in its white population.

It decreased from ~75,000 to around ~40,000.

Just because the percentage of white people in the city increased relative to the total number of people in the city doesn't mean the actual number of white people in the city increased.

And I actually attribute that ~1% increase mostly to the fact that Detroit lost ~200,000 blacks.
Take it up with the article. It said it went from 8% to over 13% so 5%+ and it said an increase in white residents not just as a percentage.
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Old 04-22-2012, 10:59 PM
 
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Take it up with the article. It said it went from 8% to over 13% so 5%+ and it said an increase in white residents not just as a percentage.
I have a vitriol hate for WJBK, they're by far the worst media outlet in this region (and I'm not a fan of any of them).

I would love to know their sources, because mine says otherwise...

And actually, in spite of ~200,000 blacks leaving the city, the percentage of blacks relative to the the total number of people in Detroit still INCREASED 1% while the percentage of white people relative to the total number of people in Detroit DECREASED 2% (and ~41,000 white people left the city).

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