Detroit...a top place to retire!! (Grosse Pointe, Clare: condos, income, lease)

[meadgrad]

per cnn money...

Best neighborhoods to retire - Detroit (18) - Money Magazine

how do you like them apples?



Hey, how bout for a change...doom and gloomers keep out!

[and the]

how do you like them apples?

About as much as I like these apples. In particular the part about the doctor and his doctor wife choosing to leave one of the best neighborhoods in Detroit for suburbia even though they had to deal with racism in West Bloomfield:

Many Metro blacks feel isolated in suburbs

Many Metro blacks feel isolated in suburbs

Better schools, services come with price for minorities

Cindy Rodríguez / The Detroit News


Clarence Tabb Jr. / The Detroit News


Rob Widdis / Special to The Detroit News

Pamela Dalton looks back at her decision and knows moving to Grosse Pointe was the most important thing she has done for her two sons. See full image



Many Metro blacks feel isolated in suburbs
Dr. Joseph Verdun never wanted to leave his mansion in the Boston-Edison section of Detroit, a short drive away from his closest friends and nestled in a city offering diverse cultural fare.

[stock66]

I plan to retire to suburban Detroit, core burbs, not BFE. If things improve in the city I would definitely move there. You can't beat the cost of living, good housing stock, and the weather doesn't bother me.

[meadgrad]

Originally Posted by and the

About as much as I like these apples. In particular the part about the doctor and his doctor wife choosing to leave one of the best neighborhoods in Detroit for suburbia even though they had to deal with racism in West Bloomfield:

Many Metro blacks feel isolated in suburbs

you're a "glass is half empty" kinda person arent you??

[and the]

you're a "glass is half empty" kinda person arent you??

Not only that, but I believe the reason the glass is half empty is because of the bullet holes at the bottom....Actually, experience has shown me that it's better to expect the worst and hope for the best when looking at this town.

[Pontiac_Man]

That is absolutely ridiculous. Detroit a place to retire? Why? that is mind boggling.

[meadgrad]

Why not? you have a great waterfront, casino's if you're into them, sports out the ying yang, beautiful architecture, colleges etc. The area in the article is DOWNTOWN, not highland park, not new center, but the main Downtown area...you know, the place where all the new condos and new construction is going on.

so you're a glass in empty person, gotcha. There are PLENTY of cities with worse crime rates and higher murder rates...Atlanta, DC...

Give it a chance and dont **** on it.

Thanks for staying out of the post doom and gloomers!

[and the]

I was downtown today, here's what I saw: Lots of buildings in one state of improvement or other with no work going on. The First Federal project that just went bankrupt, lots of derelicts who were hidden away in tents during the Superbowl, very little vehicular traffic at 10:00am, lots of vacant buildings, lots of "for lease" signs, lots of bars and restaurants. And very little to attract a family with kids.

Go ahead and sink enough money into Detroit to make it a playpen for single people with money and no kids. That's the only thing it will be good for in the foreseable future. Then, I drove less than 5 minutes westbound down Michigan avenue and I was in the "real" Detroit again. Burned out houses that have been standing like that for years, vacant churches, vacant schools, vacant houses, garbage piled up to the second story windows of one house, piles of tires, more derelicts, an abandonned stadium, falling apart. A huge abandonned train station, a couple hookers with no business. A couple big Catholic Churches with one mass on Sunday.....Lots of beautiful brick homes with nothing going for them but memories, since no one with kids who can afford to live anywhere else would even think of living there....

I'd love to buy a loft and live downtown. Unfortunately, I'm one of those people who think that if you can support kids and raise them responsibly, you have an obligation to do so. That means Detroit is good for an entertainment venue and that's it. They've been saying that "the neighborhoods are next" ever since Hank the Deuce helped build the Renaissance Center. That was a whole generation ago.

Not only is the glass half empty, most of the buildings downtown are at least half empty.

[meadgrad]

Last I heard the income level inside downtown Detroit was over 50k...50K! Keep in mind New York had lots of problems years ago as well. If I could go back in time I wish I could buy something in Greenwich Village and sell today! To claim that this is not a possiblity in Detroit today in very very nieve! AGAIN- you must seperate Downtown from other parts of the city, like you must seperate the upper west side of New York from Harlem (which is also turning around) or the Gold Coast from the sketchy parts of Chicago (only blocks away) or Atlanta from neighborhoods to the south.

Is downtown Detroit a place to raise a family right now? probably not, but neither was Greenwich village 30 years ago, and now I would imagine most people on this forum, or anywhere for that matter, could afford to live there. Places turn around, much like Detroit is now.

The creative class is eating up Detroit (like in New York years ago) and will continue to do so. Its the first step to a new city.

Detroit is a beautiful city, stop pissing on it!...or just get out.

[The Icy River Vagabond]

Meadgrad???? Really??? Lots of cities have higher crime rates??? Sounds like your not telling the truth..... Your not from the Detroit area are you??? Doesn't sound like it from your comments. Detroit is a lot differant from any of those other cities that you have mentioned... For one, none of them have lost more than half of their population. That is something that a city is probably not ever gonna recover from, because with that population went the tax base, meaning that the city has no money for anything. People don't want to live here.