Should I come to Detroit (Warren, Hart: house, rent, income)

[jeffncandace]

Originally Posted by city boy 105

Does Detroit have a lot of poverty and homeless people?

Yes. But the whole city isn't bad--just alot of it.

[Jake1256]

Originally Posted by city boy 105

Does Detroit have a lot of poverty and homeless people?

some the poverty is the same as pittsburgh, and the homeless is the same as chicago.

[mike s]

Originally Posted by c1schnei

Moderator cut: personal

You say things like
"detroiters would eat a 17 year old alive."

And throw out a number of "statistics" like
"1/5 (20%) of Detroit's population would have to vanish into thin air... because as long as they're there (I estimate 20% of D's pop. being either rude/racist, drug addicted or criminal)" 90% of the city is "unsafe" blah blah blah. "

You have a real grasp of numbers, I can tell, but living downtown is safe and exciting. I never advocated for this guy to move to an area in the 90th "unsafe percential" that you are referring to, nor do I think a neighborhood would have what a young dude was looking for.

I firmly believe that people's perceptions of Detroit lag behind the actual progress that has been made.

Just trying to interject some positive perspective on this bash-fest, and as a person who lives here, I feel like I am in a better position to provide advice about the city than people whe "visit Hockeytown" every once in a while. And you never responded to my actual answer that there are thousands of kids who attend Wayne State University without being "eaten alive."

Where are some of the Detroit-lovers on this forum? Until they arrive this place will be a bastion of misinformation and hate.

Thanks,

Chris

Ah yes! All of you people that bash Detroit are just stupid!! You sit in your little suburban homes and peek at the window of Detroit with nothing but negativity and hate spewing from your mouths!! Must I say that I have live, work, and play in Detroit all of the time and nothing has ever happend to me!! I am super proud to be from Detroit!! The Mecca of the auto industry, The pillar of American music, and the backbone to some of the hardest working people in America!! Yes we all know that Detroit's neighborhoods are not the greatest but need I say what big city's are!!???? Downtown is looking pretty spiffy latlely with new riverwalk and new casino's!! Its funny that everytime I go out in Detroit I see white people all over the place!! Eating, shopping, just out having a good time!! Maybe all of you stubborn racist that love to bash Detroit should come and see for yourselve's!! We got great sports venues, beautiful theatre, and some world class museums!! What more could you want from a city!! I love Detroit!!!!!!!

[and the]

I went to Holy Redeemer Church the other day and had dinner at Armandos. Yes, there's been a lot of progress on Vernor. Many more occupied store fronts and many more remodeled and waiting for tenants. However, there were just as many gang bangers as ever down there, and not a cop in sight. I couldn't hear myself think with all the bass booming, rattling my car.

There is no WAY I'd go down there without a gun, even considering the progress. Absolutely no way I'd even think about raising a family down there. If I had no kids, I'd have no problem living down there though.

And that area of Detoit is probably one of the more "viable" old neighborhood areas in my opinion.

Detroit needs a HUGE dose of "broken windows" policing, but they don't have the resources to pull it off. Warren Evans is trying, and I think it's because he's planning on a run for a bigger, better political office soon, but even the county doesn't have the resources to do what needs to be done right now.

[NYD_Central]

Interesting thread. Lived in Detroit inner suburbs for 24 years, now live on the East Coast. Detroit has some things to offer but much less than it once did and you see that everywhere, or at one time you did. It is very sad. If you have a melancholy bent or find some poetic touch in the passing of a once powerful American city then Detroit is for you, but don't stay too long. Take just enough to get your fill and then move on. Obviously there is something about the city that draws you so go for it, but be careful and keep your eyes open.

Royal Oak or Ferndale are your best bets for living. Plenty of affordable rents and small but respectable downtown areas.

[Tammy222]

I understand your attraction to this decaying industrial wasteland. It has been the main influence & driving force of many GREAT creative & artistic contributions to American culture. The youth will be the ones to bring more of those contributions out of this great city. However, it is VERY dangerous in most places & not for the weak or naive. I suggest finding someone to come with you if you do choose to move here. It will most definitely be an experience in culture shock & will add to your character. My best advice is that you don't go very many places on foot!
I would like to add that although I do find this to be a HIGHLY racist city from every angle-cold, mean, unfriendly, suspicious, for good reason! & angry people-I have found that if you yourself are friendly, smile & talk to people, there are 'some' of the strongest & most down-to-earth people here that I have ever met of all races and walks of life. You have to be smart & strong to make it in this town! Depending on what kind of character make-up you have, you can walk away with a bad taste in your mouth or be better for the experience of Detroit! There is something to be said for the great people of this city who will stand their ground, stay & work against the deterioration & corruption to make this city what it could be. I grew up in this area & have a nostalgia about it but I do not like living here!!!

[TheProf]

It's kind of amazing to me that the State hasn't stepped in and marshalled its resources in helping Detroit. Or, at the very least, Detroit's legislators, both in Michigan and on Capital Hill, exercising their political power. Unlike here in Cleveland, where you have 2 other metro areas of near equal size and power (actually, Columbus has even more since the Statehouse sits in that city), Detroit dominates this state size-wise and, in many ways, ideologically and, at the very least, 3 of its 4 sports teams are idolized by the entire state. What went wrong? Why isn't this huge and formerly great city not made the pride and joy of the state the way, say, MSU and U-M are?

[and the]

You seem to be able to shoot down everyone else's theories, why don't you convince us of the real reason?

[TrueDat]

Reading this thread is like stumbling across a great novel only to find the last few pages have been ripped out. I believe Daniel said early on he was going to be visiting Detroit in April so I read through every page wanting to find out what he ultimately thought of the city he'd lionized from afar. Unless I missed something, there wasn't such a post.

Inquiring minds want to know, Daniel: Have you been Detroit yet and what did you think?

[and the]

Maybe he was killed and eaten like it says on the T-Shirt....